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quite possibly some of the nicest looking things ive ever seen!!! 😍

I'd say it probably is worth to take a look if the new manifold is not very close to your camshaft position sensor and the actuator itself. If the manifold is getting really hot it might affect the correct working order. 
As I said it is just a thought. I might be completely wrong.

Update 23/02/2019 - Silverstone Trackday
On Thursday I attend a Circuit Days trackday at Silverstone, with several other members of the club. (Special thanks to @VAD17 for organising the day). This would be the first test of my new brake setup, featuring new Rear STi brembo's and Endless pads all-round. I was happy with the performance of the brakes, balance was good, no issues with over heating. Stopping power was the same as the Ferrodo's. I still think I'd prefer something with more of an aggressive bite, however I suspect that would mean sacrificing daily usability. So I might try running a dedicated set of track pads and swapping them out just before the event in future. Overall however they performed flawlessly. 
I'm not sure if it's Silverstone specific but it felt like the car was suffering with too much body roll in some corners, even though I had the suspension set on it's stiffest setting. A set of stiffer ARB's has now been added to my watch list 😆
Overall it was a fun day out with a decent amount of track time, even if it was a little busy on track.
Here are a couple of photo's from the day:





 

Does it really matter, don't you just buy a car because you want it not chase the next model. There will always be a hit on price to absorb at some point.

It'll be absolutely fine. I took my car all the way to the old East of Germany and back with a TD manifold, no cats and their resonated exhaust. I've had mine on for 25K miles now, no problem. You won't hear it when cruising, you will hear it when you accelerate on a motorway. I have a serious sound system in mine I admit, was no issue though. 

TD UEL, Cobra Decat pipe, Cobra non res catback (this is boosted so sound had been silenced a fair bit)
 
Sadly sold the car now but hope this cheeky little clip can persuade you got go UEL 

very nice! the evo 6 will still be very raw too unlike the bmw which was very numb and quite boring. I have my 86 in for the TD N/A package in february which will hopefully just add that bit of extra fizz it needs but more importantly remove the torque dip, otherwise I don't really feel the need for Fi personally. 30mph in the 86 feels like 80mph in the bmw etc etc 

So I have had a few days in the car on and off, as its essentially like an xmas gift I have had a play although weather has not permitted to much spirited driving. I feel the need to write a up a few thoughts I have had. So I will compare the cars in parts as im sure alot of gt86 owners consider where do I do next after the GT86 or if I feel like a change thoughts that plague a petrols heads mind. I will not write a review based on outright performance laptimes etc as these are two different leagues of cars in terms of price and power more on subjective matters and feel.
Part 1: 
Cost
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Im sure most of us start here on sports cars so we don't extend ourselves or run something that ultimately empties our wallets.

Insurance - For me the average increase of a modified GT86 (N/A) to a cayman S is on average 120-200 this takes into account that the Cayman is 3 times the value of the GT86 so overall imo is perfectly acceptable and I dont intend on changing or modifying the Cayman thats a pretty good deal.

Brakes - This is where the Cayman can be expensive with disk and pads costing 800 for fronts along and rears similarly priced, however as part of my deal I received new disks and pads all round so all being well I will not have to replace these but checking them before purchase is a must.

Tyres - Again the Cayman and Porsche Warranty have an effect here in the fact you need N rated tyres and the difference in size. GT86 will cost you 450 fitted for a set of ps4's (17's) where as the Cayman with the 20 inch wheels will cost you 900 for ps4s all round. So double the cost. I was fortunate again to negotiate new tyres with the car and run Pirelli p-zero's all round.
 
Mpg - On a run around the Alps Pyrenees and Scotland the GT86 averaged 33mpg and the Caymans/boxsters where around 30-32 so on long runs the Cayman is very much comparable to the GT86. I think however in the uk on normal shorter runs it would be more like 25-30 for the Cayman and 28-33 in the GT86.

Servicing - The average cost of servicing for a GT86 from Toyota is around 200-400 with the 60k service being the big hit 600 this is done every year or 10k miles or 1 year. For the Cayman 600-900 is what you are looking at. The service was done on the Cayman as part of the initial deal and is done every 20k or 2 years. So overall the servicing cost is the same. A clutch on a Cayman done by an approved specialist in 800.

I will list any other costs as I go along or enounter.

Interior
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I always liked the GT86's basic structure of the interior everything was functional and served a purpose and all the reviews that said it was lacking where always cast aside as rubbish. The GT86 interior does exactly what you need it to (mini rant). Both cars have a nice air'y feel to them when you sat down with the GT86 having slightly more due to the additional seats. Everything is functional and aimed at the driver in both cars. The 987.2 which is the model previous to mine does suffer from being more slightly crampt which is why I went for the 981 as being 6ft 2 has its downsides in sports cars. There are additional useful toys in the cayman in comparison to the GT86, the PCM system being superior to Toyota's effort but again cost plays a factor in this so I will not dwell.

Seating position is something the GT86 excels at, once you have driven a GT86 no other seating position seems to fit quite right and that for me includes several driving experiences in 458's Gallardo's GTR's MX5'sCivic Type R's etc etc. I was always pleased to return to the GT86 and sit in it. Good news for me is that the Cayman does exactly the same as the GT86 which for me was a huge factor in the purchase. You have to feel right in the car and the GT86 and Cayman are both Perfect and I have lots of room in both for a helmet aswell

Exterior
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Both great looking cars and I like the look of them both equally, when people ask why I never considered a BMW140 or M2 etc Its because as a sports car you should want to look over your shoulder at your car when you've parked up and both of these cars do just that. Right ow for obvious reasons being my new toy I prefer the Cayman

Brakes
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The standard brakes on a GT86 are excellent on the road and provide great feed back but for me on track they faded so I bought APracing and so I will try and compare both experiences as I have done so far with the Cayman. So yes the Cayman brakes are better in terms of stopping power and provide excellent road feedback, initial feel of them under hard braking the 'feedback' is as good as the APracing/standard ones if not slightly better but thats my initial impression and I will need to hit the track to really have an idea. So for those worrying about loosing feel that is initially not the case.

Handling
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This is probably the toughest aspect of this for me to write or compare. The engine layouts of the car are different, tyre sizes are very different, power is very different however the connection between you and the car and road can always be quantified in how the car makes you feel when driving it. The GT86 is alive lightweight(ish) in your hands and the rear yaw of the car makes every switchback tight corner feel as though you are on the limit of grip when pushing along. Its an exciting drive designed for the back roads of the UK. The only ever real downside was the perceived lack of shove but this really only mattered in comparison with other cars in isolation anyone who drives or has driven a GT86 have loved it. I kept mine for 4.5years and I regret no day owning it and the joy it brought me was great but we all know this.
So the Cayman, the limits on the car are high so initial feel at lower speeds are not as good as the GT86, now this is not super high speed difference but for example 0-40 my Cayman suffers initially from being a heavier bigger wheeled car. Once beyond 40 and you find a country road (specifically my test road im sure we all have one) the Cayman becomes surprisingly agile the whole car becomes alive and everything goes next level to the GT86 in terms of brakes power grip but the feel of the car and how it makes me feel is comparable to the GT86, the smiles per hour remain the same through out. I have driven other cars before the Cayman M2's Type R's etc looking for a replacement but this has been the only car which made me grin as much through the handling as the GT86. Some aspects such as the turn of the Cayman are just unbelievable making a switchback so enjoyable.
I have not taken the Cayman to the edge of grip and I do not think ive come close but if you where worried as was I on the feedback from this car I can safely say dont be its as good as or better than the GT86 which indirectly tells you how good the GT86 is. I will say however that the steering on the GT86 has a slight edge on the Cayman but I believe that difference is wheel size, having not driven a GT86 on 18's or Cayman on 19's I think its basically just that difference at lower speeds that gives the 86 on 17's that additional feel.

Experience
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(This section might be biased by new purchase  )
The GT86 Experience is based around is driving ability and smiles per hour but the one thing it did not have for me was noise and presence and that is where the Cayman has it completely beaten, going out to the car and seeing it on your driveway is just amazing and when the flat 6 fires up it awesome. The noise of the engine which is one of the downsides of the 86 makes this car seem very special and add's something to an experience which I have been missing for a while since the high rev'ing days of my RB26 at high revs. Everything feels special in the Cayman and next level in terms sports car hierarchy in comparison to the GT86 . This section here is why I believe the GT86 is a 4/5 car and the Cayman is a 5/5 car.


I hope to give more information as the experience with the Cayman continues (Track, Road trips),so if you where to want a new car you might have a a Cayman on your list as a possible hopefully I can give you a GT86 V Cayman comparison based on subjective matters as per my favourite review of the GT86 by Chris Harris which was also one of the reasons I wanted to try a Cayman  
 

I came from a remapped BMW 335d M-Sport Coupe with 370bhp / 700nm torque (yes, you read that right) and I still prefer my BRZ.  It gives me more driving fun, is more challenging and is far more rewarding to drive.

I came from a 4 second flat to 60, 420bhp/450lbft tuned bmw m135i and I much prefer the gt86. Need I say more?

I came from a 4 second flat to 60, 420bhp/450lbft tuned bmw m135i and I much prefer the gt86. Need I say more?

Just a quick note to say thank you to everybody who bought from us or booked in workshop work.  
 
Thanks
 
Mike

I'm currently in progress of sorting this out as in the same situation but don't have the original wheels as an option for swapping so I've gone for option 2b.
I have read the original sensors codes direct from the ECU and bought cloneable sensors and programmer for less than the prices quoted above. I've programmed them with the OEM codes. They are read ok by the programmer and the matching id is displayed. Not managed to get them detected by the car though, but this is without any pressure. I must admit I thought they would be detected but still report an error due to lack of pressure rather than not be detected. However I have read that they don't transmit when no pressure or even rotating (I don't believe rotation is an issue but this might depend on sensor make). I will post up when I make some further progress.

Depends really, I wouldn't say one location gave more benefit than another. 
Rear arches definitely helped, but you need to do the whole car to get the full benefit. I still need to do the backseats and the floor, but it's too cold & wet now to spend the whole weekend outside.

No point using the white sound deadening in the doors due to the foam on the door cards, plus it might catch on the window mechanism.
I used about 8 or 9 tiles & 1 box (2 sheets) of absorber foam per door. 
I'd do the doors first and see how you get on. 

Blanking it off was the best thing I've done to the car yet! Will eventually get an intake hose 

How are we supposed to tell you what to do next?
Browse the forum and the build threads to see if anything takes your fancy. Look at the parts websites like Tarmac Sportz, Tuning Developments etc
It's impossible for us to recommend anything when we know nothing about you, how you use the car, how you intend to use it in the future, what your budget is, what your style is...etc

I actually went with Cosworth StreetMaster pads in the end so never tried the Brembo pads.

I got brembo pads on mine at the moment. Can't say I notice a difference from OEM, although I've never tracked them. They still squeek at random...
The two different rears are for the vented and unvented discs. You should have vented and need the thinner pads (I believe). 

Good to see you have had it replaced under warranty without issues (apart from as you say strangely replacing with the same part)

I really want mine doing before I go on my european road trip April year. It isn't gonna look cool in the Monaco traffic with a chirpy fuel pump and tbh it just annoys me

Still underway. Carson Performance have been spot on but unfortunately we keep finding shit to put right or come across something missing from the previous knob-jockey
I won't go into details but had we started the engine up before finding countless issues, it would've lasted about 2 seconds.
Hope to have some more updates in the next couple of weeks.

Rob, Keith, Alec and I started this club over five years ago now. I am pleased that it has gone from strength to strength, however five years is a long time and Rob has now sold his car and Alec by his own admission does not participate in the running of the club anymore. Keith and I are still around of course, though it seems like I'm the ever present director these days. 
I feel that I'm doing most things these days and I could really use some help! This is mostly with the events side of things and I know we have some excellent regional organisers, like @Leevsfortyone, @will300 and @Deacon, @VAD17 to name but a few. Not to mention the great support from @smudge for his help with running the Facebook page. I couldn't do it without him. 
I totally understand times change and we cannot expect even the directors to own their cars forever. Life changes and people move onto other things, unless you're me of course, 120,000 miles in my car and still going strong, which is great and all that, but I feel that we need to prepare the club for the future. 
So what am I proposing? 
Well I'm looking at forming a committee as such for the event organisers where we can have our own forum to discuss and organise events and delegate who will be doing what. Alec has said that he's happy to stand down as a director and I understand that it's far easier to effect these days. If someone feels that they would like to take on the heinous responsibility of being a director for the club, do please let me know! 
I would really like to hear from those enthusiastic members that would like to get more involved in the running of the club. There's no pay of course as we are non-profit and we all do stuff in our spare time when we are not earning a living. 
So who do we need? 
Well I'd really like to reinforce the regional event organisers we already have, so there is the South East/West, Midlands, possibly East Midlands and of course the North West and East. We are lacking in the Northern part of the country and should do more up here. 
We also need someone to liaise with the Owners Club. I've built this relationship with the help of Rob over the last year and after a good chat with @Kesler at JAE we are going to work to promote even more events together across both clubs. This is great news as I believe that all owners irresepective of whether they are on this club or the OC should all get to benefit from the events we organise and vice-versa. We had a great collaboration at Japfest Silverstone this year, but more work needs to be done on other events such as Japfest Donington and JAE if we continue to attend. We also have a great relationship with Toyota UK again through @Kesler and are trying to coordinate factory tours at Burnaston through @Riceburner. Really we have some great people already on board and great contacts in this respect, but it needs working on to ensure that we have some great events. 
I would absolutely welcome new ideas and a good injection of new blood is definitely needed. 
Please reply if you have any questions and wish to get further involved. @rob275 and I have agreed that we will have a meet up somewhere central in the coming months with those that are interested in taking the club further and getting more involved. It will probably be around the midlands. 

I gently pulled it, and used a sharp knife to cut the adhesive. The first door picture shows how far down I pulled it down, you don't need to remove it.
Once I finished the sound deadening I simply pushed it back into place, rubbing the adhesive with my finger. The current temperature helps as it means the adhesive is really soft and stretchy.
 

I have the Header package from TD and its really made the car much more fun, would 100% recommend. Personally I plan on sorting out the rest of the performance aspects (coilovers/ brakes/ wheels/ catback) before spending out on the turbo. 
The good thing about the TD setup is that the turbo upgrade is cheaper after getting the headers installed as they are x-compatible. I don't think many packages offer this.
When I had my headers fitted, I did get to have a ride in Mikes Turbo'ed 86 and it was epic (the noise alone is worth the money ).

Didn’t get any pics but fitted ebc slotted discs with yellow stuff pads all round today.
Next step will be exhaust