Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Hello all, I was driving along briskly and applied the brakes quite firmly then there was a bang from the nearside rear and the brake pedal went to the floor. I re-applied the brakes and got a lot of ABS Judder and managed to bring the car to a stop. The nearside rear outer brake pad had fallen out. I found a pad in the road and there is still a good 6 mm of material left on it. The disks are not that old. Has this happened to anybody else and does anyone have any idea how it’s done it? cheers, Julesbeav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GT86-Ian 351 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Who fitted the pads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varelco 211 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 How the hell? That's pretty impressive. Are the caliper bolts loose? I can't see how it's got out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 39 minutes ago, GT86-Ian said: Who fitted the pads? Someone who would worry me🙈 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Don’t know, they were in it when I got it. I’m still sat at the side of the road waiting for the recovery man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Julesbeav said: Hello all, I was driving along briskly and applied the brakes quite firmly then there was a bang from the nearside rear and the brake pedal went to the floor. I re-applied the brakes and got a lot of ABS Judder and managed to bring the car to a stop. The nearside rear outer brake pad had fallen out. I found a pad in the road and there is still a good 6 mm of material left on it. The disks are not that old. Has this happened to anybody else and does anyone have any idea how it’s done it? cheers, Julesbeav I have known pads to come out of calipers but only when they are totally worn out which these are not do you know history of car ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Full Toyota service history but I bought it from the car shop.com and it had new disks and pads all round. I’m guessing the rear disks must be wrong and they’re too thin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 The AA man should be here in a minute and I’m guessing he’s going to take the wheel off so I’ll let you know what we find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Julesbeav said: Full Toyota service history but I bought it from the car shop.com and it had new disks and pads all round. I’m guessing the rear disks must be wrong and they’re too thin. 2 minutes ago, Julesbeav said: Full Toyota service history but I bought it from the car shop.com and it had new disks and pads all round. I’m guessing the rear disks must be wrong and they’re too thin. Get it took back there they can't have assembled it properly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riceburner 284 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Poverty spec rear discs ?? Non vented and too thin ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdstrike 186 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Well done for getting the car stopped safely! That's a terrible oversight by somebody, and litigation-worthy. Examine everything that is in the wheel arch closely. The pad zinging out may have scratched or dented the wheel or some other component, and you want a full list of issues before you bill the seller. The pad holder looks out of position considering the carrier and shims next to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conscript 45 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, Riceburner said: Poverty spec rear discs ?? Non vented and too thin ?? That's the only way I can see that it can happen, if the caliper isn't loose. Disc so tin that when applying the brakes, the caliper pushes the pad all the way through the carrier and it just slides out with the disc. Bizarre! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Riceburner said: Poverty spec rear discs ?? Non vented and too thin ?? My bets as well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Seems to be solid discs with calipers for vented ones. Un happy day. and it’s raining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Julesbeav said: Seems to be solid discs with calipers for vented ones. Un happy day. and it’s raining. Where was this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Ramsey, Essex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich 378 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Whichever clown shop fitted them clearly went for the cheapest option without checking it was actually correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerastes 204 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, Rich said: Whichever clown shop fitted them clearly went for the cheapest option without checking it was actually correct. I think "fitted" is the wrong word. I would imagine they just placed it. Or maybe it was fitted correctly and someone has a hit on you and loosened it? You're not wanted by the mafia or anything are you? On a serious note, glad you're ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julesbeav 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Cheers everyone, loving the site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave86 33 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 This is a performance mod. Makes you go faster. Everywhere. All the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted August 10, 2018 Possibly the same workshop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 11, 2018 23 hours ago, nerdstrike said: That's a terrible oversight by somebody, and litigation-worthy. Examine everything that is in the wheel arch closely. The pad zinging out may have scratched or dented the wheel or some other component, and you want a full list of issues before you bill the seller. This now needs to be raised, as that could have been an incredibly dangerous/fatal mistake to make. It's not acceptable and it needs to be flagged so they don't potentially do it again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdstrike 186 Report post Posted August 11, 2018 The magic words here are "vicarious liability". The responsibility for the safety of the vehicle lays not only with the mechanics but the owners too. To clarify, the owners of the place that sold the car, not poor @Julesbeav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shiftspark 41 Report post Posted August 11, 2018 It’s hard to tell from pictures whether they are vented but they do look quite old ? Wrong pads maybe or previous owner replaced them and garage claimed they had replaced them ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, shiftspark said: It’s hard to tell from pictures whether they are vented but they do look quite old ? He said: On 10/08/2018 at 3:12 PM, Julesbeav said: Seems to be solid discs with calipers for vented one I reckon you can just about make that out from the photo. Whilst I kind of agree that owners should check over the car, I would say that on a car purchased from a dealer of some sort (who should be doing checks themselves remember) that you wouldn't be expected to check whether the right type of disc was fitted. They are not that visually different and I wouldn't expect anyone but an expert to pick that up. For example, how many long term owners here even suggested that it was a possible cause ;) Fluids, tread depth, pressures etc can be checked by anyone but I bet no-one here who's bought a 2nd hand car thought to check which type of rear brake discs were fitted, namely because they were only sold here in the single spec I'd imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites