Angelina

I was looking up youtube videos about 6 speed vs 5 speed transmissions and what the differences are. I'm trying to learn everything I can so I understand my car. Sometimes I think, what exactly is the point of the 6th gear? lol. I'm sure some of you are rolling your eyes. Well, I clicked on one video, and there was a about a ten-second intro with some text and the sound of a car starting up and running. I thought, that sounds like a GT86! And sure enough, when the video started, it was! I definitely do not have a trained ear for different cars, but this car really does have a unique sound!

Any chance of getting a 'Giallo" one as my polo shirt? If so I'd love one!😊

Hopefully newbies will see this conversation and express some interest!

Ewwww, nooooo,  sacrilege. I have actually seen photos of that prototype, and I'm so glad they didn't go into production. A convertible version just seems so out of sync with what this car is all about. I have to go wash my eyes now.

I didn't specifically ask about the torque dip, because that's really more a result of emissions and to a point to make the car feel like it gets going at higher revs. He was very interested in my AE86 which I still had at the time and loved hearing about that. We talked about what might happen in the future for the GT but he didn't give anything away of course. He enjoyed looking at what I had done to my car. It was a fab day and Toyota looked after us well with food and a mobile ice cream parlour!

Happy motoring.....enjoy the blue beauty. Hope to meet you at a club event! 😁

Hi. Another Londoner here. North. Enjoy miles of smiles


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Hey everyone,
Been wanting a BRZ for a quite a long time, finally pulled the trigger last week and got one in a got one in a gorgeous blue, and I think it’s safe to say, I’m absolutely loving it! Bought it stock and probably will stay stock-ish for the foreseeable future as living in London, I’m still recovering from that insurance payment I just made 🤬
Nevertheless, happy to be here, and looking forward to hopefully getting to know some of you lovely people
Faizaan
 
 

First fuel stop after a whole 20 seconds of driving after leaving the dealer with about 2 miles worth of fuel in the tank 🤣

This has been on my bucket list since forever and it didn’t disappoint. Thus drive was worth the price of the GT86 alone. I got really lucky with it still being open this late, and it was absolutely deserted. Just me, the car and traction control turned off.
 
Fantastic - never driven a road so twisty most of the hairpins are FIRST gear... . Very much recommended...

We can form a Steven Eagell Appreciation Society...

I've bought 2 sets from them in recent months. My Michelin PS4s were manufactured the month before I bought them. My Dunlop WinterSport5s which I bought last month (yet to be used) were manufactured wk29 2018 so are 'last years' stock.....

I buy from ProTyre and they rotate their tyres quickly due to being a big operation. Their price for PS4s is also very good.

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Well quite, @Twigman. Sport mode allows barely any slip before it intervenes. I drive with everything off all the time. I could understand it more if people were doing that. But really it's clumsy application of throttle before you are out of the corner. Old Primacy tyres won't help of course. I'd need to be a hooligan to move mine in the wet on PS4's. 

I have been mildly disappointed at the LACK of tail happiness of the 86. Perhaps I need to get an old 911?
My Triumph Spitfire, with its 80 odd bhp and dodgy tranverse leaf spring rear suspension was far more tail happy.
I find you really have to be trying to break traction to actually get the back out. I drive in 'VSC Sport' mode all the time and even then I have to really try to get the back out (even when I had the Primacy HPs on). And I don't hang around.
I am bemused by the many posts I see from people 'complaining' that they're caught unawares by the back end suddenly snapping out? How people? How?

Isn't it the entire point of the car?

Hiya,
Been looking at getting an 86 for roughly a year now, so excited to finally get my hands on one.
Love some of the builds I've seen at events like Japfest!! looking forward to 86 ownership.
James

I think though as a daily driver, if running costs are affordable, it'd be a very nice place to be. I'm glad the one I tested was in white, I agree blue is boring and I like how the white highlighted the contrast to the black of the vents. I didn't overly mind the gearbox, that wasn't a big issue, I spent 90% of the time manually swopping cogs, though sure I'd love to drive a manual one to get total control. The Supra is obviously very capable and there may be some joy in it's sharp chassis that requires accuracy I suspect, a great deal more than the beautifully malleable GT86 which you can slide at any angle you want. The Supra is a different proposition with it's squarer wheelbase. I want to spend more time in one to get more of a feel for it and work on feeling the balance more in longer more open and flowing roads. 
I look forward to part two of my review.

Wow very detailed review Lauren, I had a test drive in one yesterday in the Northwest also, here are my quick thoughts: 
The colour was Navy Blue, bit of a boring colour to be honest and doesnt show the lines of the car off very well however the car itself is amazing! Inside is all leather and like you said it's a similar driving position to the 86, I noticed the sills are very wide and the windscreen is pretty narrow (almost like looking through a letterbox) but it gives the car more of a sporty feeling. 
I was very surprised how fast the car was and how well it put the power down through the rear wheels. The transmission is savage when flooring it and I've never experienced a car which changes gears so quick! When driving it's pretty quiet inside the cabin however outside it sounds unreal. 
However with this being said, when compared to my GT86 I find the A90 boring... yes the Supra is a lot faster but the automatic transmission in it makes the driving experience a bit too lazy because the car does eveything itself. When I was driving home after the test drive, the 86 made me smile more because when getting on it your able to give the car some abuse and I'm physically able change through the gears on the twisty roads myself. 
I'm really hoping Toyota are able to give this new Supra a manual transmission option so it gives the driver more of a connection with the car because I feel that's what's lacking the most. I have no doubt there will be a gradual release of different options and specs and it would also be interesting if the car came with a Targa roof like the MK4.
Because of these reasons mentioned above I'm in no rush to put my name on the waiting list with the hope of Toyota listening to people who have similar views to mine...

Supra review 5th October 2019
 
Well, so much hyperbole, ‘the legend is back’, ‘fifty years of heritage’, ‘racing DNA’, the first global car by Toyota Gazoo Racing, Toyota’s rebranded motorsport department. Then there is the now legendary status of the A80 Supra with Smokey Nagata at the wheel driving at 197mph on the A1M at 4am in the morning. No pressure then? Much talk has been made of the collaboration with BMW and as is the way these days collaborations are extremely common in the car industry. Remember the Toyota/Subaru one with the GT86/BRZ? That turned out alright didn’t it?
 


The new Supra shares its basic platform in terms of running gear with the BMW Z4, but there are a lot of differences with the most obvious one being that the Supra has a roof and the Z4 does not. Plus it looks so much better. They both share the reworked BMW B58 engine which Toyota improved upon and whilst to the die hards it isn’t a new ‘2JZ’ it is a 3 litre turbocharged straight six. This is a well liked engine with 340bhp though some tests of production cars by tuners have seen up to 380bhp and 369lb/ft of torque, though 500nm as in the spec sheet sounds more. At around 1500kg it’s no lightweight but par for the course for a car in this sector. As we shall find out, it’s not lacking in torque.
 
This car is fully loaded with every conceivable option and many will be relieved to find Apple Car Play in a Toyota. Good news, I think. There were too many options to fully appraise when I only had the car for an hour, but as the only car available for test drives in the whole of the North West this would be something of a taster to gain initial impressions. I didn’t play with the sat nav, turn the stereo on or try out the adaptive cruise and lane assistance options. My mission on a cool and slightly damp morning in Macclesfield was to focus on what it drives like and how it feels.


 

Getting into the car it feels similarly low to the GT86 and the driving position feels familiar. Nice and low and with the electrically adjustable seat I’m soon in a good driving position. I ponder if the accelerator pedal is a centimetre further to the right and note it being hinged from the floor.
Richard from RRG Toyota Macclesfield tells me to try ‘comfort’ mode in full automatic as we head through Macclesfield. As I pull away from the lights I notice the throttle is soft in response and accelerates smoothly with no hint of what the power figures suggest. It feels a bit lazy to me, which is I suppose ideal if you’ve got no sensitivity in your right foot, but I prefer a sharper response. Solace is found in the ‘Sport’ button. Much better, it even holds gears longer which is uncanny. As we head out towards what used to be called Fools Nook and with a higher speed limit, I ease the throttle down. Wow, does it go. I’m pushed back in my seat, but soon have to ease off for traffic ahead. It gives a tantalising glimpse of what is to come. I note the seats are comfy and after the first few corners, the steering is direct. The control weights feel much as the GT86. That extra 300kg is well compensated by that powerhouse of an engine.


We turn left at Boseley and head up the A54 on the uphill in the direction of the Cat and Fiddle (Buxton Road). At last a clear road ahead of me, so I push the throttle to the floor in second, I’m already in manual mode. Wow, it’s quick, really quick, one gear comes after another and I joke to Richard that I better think about trying the brakes as we head into the tricky double right left chicane before snicking up the hill on an unseen left. This is Macclesfield so predictably there’s a small stream crossing the road ahead of us mid-corner. I’m on sticky Michelin Super Sports. No matter though, reminding myself this car is a bit precious and registered to the managing director of RRG, caution wins. The car feels surefooted and has a nice direct feeling front end.
We push up the hill and soon catch a straggler who after a time opts to pull over and let me past. This car has some presence on the road. The A54 has a lot of crests and dips. I push hard along these trying not to get airborne, and the car copes with compressions well, the undertrays remaining as good as new!  The damping is good and the car feels controlled, no float and whilst we are in Sport mode, we are in normal mode for damping which is probably a good thing on a road such as this. There is zero slop in the suspension and as I push hard into an uphill left hander, the car feels direct and well connected.

What dominates the experience is the power. Perhaps it’s because I’m used to a whole 213bhp and half the torque of the Supra that I am constantly gobsmacked by the mid range torque of this car. It flies and the rate it piles the speed on constantly impresses. What I do notice and perhaps this is due to the shorter wheel base compared to my GT86 is that the Supra responds, really well, but feels like it may be a little more of a handful when the rear does let go. I didn’t turn the stability control or traction off on this drive given it was the only available demonstrator in the northwest, but I could feel it cutting in as I applied the throttle mid corner interrupting my progress and making it feel like I’m point and squirting the car down the straights in-between corners. Given the power of the engine, it’s making the Cat and Fiddle feel a bit too tight and twisty. It’s almost as if it craves some long fast sweepers where I can properly load the suspension and get it to work a bit longer. I’m desperate to try adjusting the throttle mid corner but here I feel like I’m either on it or off it, again stability aids making it feel a bit too binary for my liking. Thinking about it more, as the wheels are smeared with 275 wide rear tyres and 255 up front, with these super sticky tyres it’s not easy to exploit the handling and response on a dry road.

 
I need more time behind the wheel to try out the features properly, play with damping modes and it would be interesting to see what it feels like on a wet road. One thing that has not come to mind is the turbo. There doesn’t really seem to be any lag with pushing the throttle, there’s no wait for a response. Whilst I would prefer a more sensitive throttle, this is probably more about my conditioning with my super sensitive throttle on my own car. The engine is very responsive, but perhaps it’s the mid-range torque that really dominates, though it does run freely to the limiter if you’re brave enough. The Supra just simply decimates roads like these, shortening the straights and bringing the next corner to you at an ever increasing rate. My mind is trying to process it all. I should also add that I didn’t try automatic mode as such, though I was really impressed by the speed of the upshifts using the paddles, I was probably in too low a gear a lot of the time, trying to remember I have eight gears to deal with rather than six. User error I admit, but there is a lot going on when you have a lot less time to think between corners!

With the Cat and Fiddle road bullied into submission by the Supra, I ease off and try to collect my thoughts. This would be a nice car to live with. The interior switchgear will be familiar to anyone who owns a current BMW and this is no bad thing. It feels in a different world compared to the hard plastics in my car and well, one would have to expect that given it’s twice the price. The infotainment systems are obvious BMW and there are a myriad of functions. I admit I was a little too busy driving to get a chance to try everything out. There is also a nifty head up display showing speed limit and speed, though I put the seat on its lowest setting so couldn’t see it, though it can be adjusted I’m told.

I like the dash with the central tachometer. Why don’t all cars have this, speed is always secondary to revs after all. I’m finding it a bit difficult keeping an eye on the digital speedometer, it would be better placed in the middle of the rev counter I think, but that’s reserved for what gear and drive mode the car is in. It’s probably a matter of getting used to these things though. The seats are nicely supportive and feel better than the seats in my GT86 which are really good. I like the feel of the controls and thinner steering wheel is a nice touch. Visibility is good, though at first I’m drawn to the huge chunky A pillars and small windscreen. Five minutes behind the wheel though and I’m not noticing it. Visibility from the rear view mirror feels a little like looking down a tunnel with the long rear windscreen framing the view, though there is a very good reversing camera that does apparently stop you hitting things as well as highlighting any points where you are close. There’s a decent boot as well, though the shape of the opening would restrict bulky items. Having no rear seats helps though.

As my drive nears its end, I’m given a lot to think about. Wow, that engine, the power, the ease with which you can make other cars disappear in you rear view mirror, the effortless overtaking, the way in which it pushes you back into your seat. If you’ve had a bad day, you could instantly improve your mood with one deft shove of the accelerator. I never felt like I could really properly assess the handling, which such high limits of grip and the stability control putting me on the naughty step. I absolutely understand that in a car with this kind of power how a less experienced driver could quickly find themselves in a whole lot of trouble very quickly in this car if it allowed more slip. Also with the short wheelbase, you will have to be quick to catch it. I think it will remind me more of driving mid-engined cars where opposite lock has to accurate and quickly applied. Things such as these I want to explore more. The Supra is enticing me to come back as there is unfinished business here. When RRG Macclesfield have their own demonstrator I look forward to getting to know this car better. I like it, a lot.
Familiarity with this car makes me like the looks more. I love how it's got it's own look with a really obvious link to the MKIV Supra and bringing the old badge back. 

 
 

No problem.
 
The intake hose will remove the induction noise that is piped into the cabin on the standard car. Which should then make it slightly quieter.
 
The intake hose does not affect the exhaust note.
 
Thanks
 
Mike

Afternoon all,
 
We're going to run an offer for October on our NA Tuning Package
 
Gains of upto 25hp & 40lb.ft through the midrange and 20hp peak at high RPM, transforms the drive of the 86/BRZ platform!
 
Just to recap, the kit consists of:
 
 
'Before' Dyno Run
Tuning Developments Manifold (EL or UEL)
Tuning Developments Overpipe
Gaskets
Heat Wrap For 'Downpipe' Section
K&N 'Drop In' Replacement Panel Filter
Installation
ECUTeK License
In House Remap On The Dyno
 

 

 
Usually £1495.00, we're running this for £1350.00 for the month of October only. Must be booked in and the work carried out during October
 
To book in, please either drop me a message via this forum, drop me an email to mike@tuningdevelopments.co.uk or give me a call on 01925 822 266.
 
Thanks!
 
Mike
 

The filling ports are different for the two gasses, so they cannot put the wrong gas in. Take it to a garage and have them check
 

Thanks for the comments! Looking forward to the really cold and damp mornings when I'll looking like I'm driving a steam train to work haha

Water is one of the main products of efficient combustion.
Nothing to worry about

Hi Angelina, sorry yes I mean steam