Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 3, 2015 Car is home & hopefully sorted. The were adamant that they followed Toyota tech specialists advice & it was a connection issue. Fingers crossed it's sorted Her she is with my Italian daily driver. The two toys are asleep 3 Keethos, Lauren and Polishingpedlar reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted September 3, 2015 Late spider. Nice. What's the other one? Brera? 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 3, 2015 Yes, V6 Q4 Brera (my other car). 2006 with 50k on it. Love it. The Spider is a 1990 Giulia Series 4. Last of the RWD Alfas. The Panda is a Twinair Cross. Quite possibly the best pound for pound car we've owned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted September 3, 2015 I drive a Twinair 500 daily. Great little car!!Only issue is.. dealers in this area are awful!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted September 3, 2015 I like the Panda/500. Had an Abarth but was too much engine for the chassis, though it looked fabulous. Liked the twin air though - suited the car better. Characterful engine. Never had an Alfa, though if I'd gone down the saloon route I was sorely tempted by a late 159 ti with the 1750tbi engine... Gorgeous looking thing. Wandering off topic, but thought it a real shame they canned the proposed Alfa spin off of the latest MX5. It's a lovely car, but would be lovelier still with Alfa styling and interior, and there was talk of the engines being Alfa as well... 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 Well, it's happened again. Lit up like Blackpool. Pig in a poke then. What's the ruling on rejection? Needed a reliable trustworthy car to replace a 10 year old Alfa. Got a PoS instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 Check out CarBuyer.co.uk some useful,info 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Car has been taken back for (hopeful) rectification and replaced with a new Auris Estate.We are away for a fortnight from Friday so have asked that the fix it properly this time. Fingers crossed again then,My wife is properly gutted. Her first brand new car which in 500 miles has been very troublesome.Toyota Financial Services were very helpful. Case opened, rejection if it's not fixed when we return. Let's hope it doesn't come to that, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smudge 1020 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 I can appreciate your frustration, but calling the 86 a piece of sh*t isn't really the way to deal with it... You've been unlucky, every mass produced car will have a few that slip through the net and overall out of the thousands that have been sold in the UK, the majority of people haven't had any real issues I'm sure the garage will get it sorted. If not, get it to Richard at RRG as a last resort as his reputation on here couldn't be higher. A number of forum members have travelled great distances and been overwhelmed with the help from RRG 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 The 86 is fantastic. Ours isn't. To break down twice in 500 miles is very poor indeed.She waited long enough for it and already loves it (as do I) but neither of us have any trust in it which you have to agree is understandable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ztox 230 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Such a shame, really hope you get it all sorted out! 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 The replacement......lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 it's the first time I've seen one without a giant spoon on the bonnet 1 chillismoke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikndel 509 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 The replacement......lolrag it big time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 A diesel Auris estate. Just like a GT86....lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Had a hybrid one for a weekend once. Wasn't as bad as I expected... A weekend was enough though. 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 Do you think we're just unlucky with this car?No one on any forum seems to have had this issue Do you think it's fixable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 If I'm honest, yes I do. You have one problem with the car, probably down to a fault with a single component. It's not actually stopped working - just lit up some lights. As with all consumer goods actually you're far more likely to have issues when brand new as whatever it is was probably faulty at manufacture. Once initial teething is over it'll probably be fine for years until bits start wearing out. Whilst no one here has had that problem loads have had little niggles in first six months that need a trip to the dealer and a bit of tweaking. It's the same as any car.However the frustration sets in when the dealer can't (or won't) fix the issue. So if you're not getting anywhere try a different dealer. I think you're overreacting to the issue with the car itself, but you need to have confidence with the people fixing it and to be honest it sounds like they're floundering a bit. Others have recommended RRG and they're right, but it's a long way away. Perhaps some southern members might recommend somewhere else.Ultimately if you need to reject the car because of the dealers inability to fix a fault than fair enough, (and I wouldn't blame you) but don't tarnish the car. Ironically in my experience it's exactly that issue that leads people to slag off Alfas. The cars are solid enough but the dealer network is....um...highly variable. 3 Keethos, Lauren and Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 Thank you & absolutely true except every Alfa and all but one Fiat we've owned has put our GT86 to shame. We both lusted after this car since launch in 2012 (when I drove it). Toyota's reputation is excellent as, incidentally is the garage we are dealing with.We don't want to reject it. My Mrs is heartbroken over it as expected so much more from her first brand new car experience.The garage wanted to replace the ABS pump / solenoid / module last time but Toyota said no. It's not the garage's fault.We've go a 426bhp Camaro SS drop top for two week from Saturday (American road trip from San Fran to Vegas and back up the coast) so hopefully, the issues will be a distant memory and when we get back and get the 86 back on the 28th, all will be perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 I don't know any dealers near you, but the one I got mine from is reasonable helpful (but bare in mind i've not had any technical faults per-se) so they could be just as clueless.If you told RRG that Toyota said not to replace it, he would tell you that's bollocks. The way warranty works is they replace the faulty parts then claim back to Toyota later. 2 Keethos and Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 I don't know any dealers near you, but the one I got mine from is reasonable helpful (but bare in mind i've not had any technical faults per-se) so they could be just as clueless.If you told RRG that Toyota said not to replace it, he would tell you that's bollocks. The way warranty works is they replace the faulty parts then claim back to Toyota later.Toyota UK tech support line guided the garage as they've never had an 86 back in. Toyota said they'd never seen the fault code so instructed the garage to check, clean, break & re-make the connections to the module and not to replace it, which is what the garage wanted to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 Either way, the garage can do what they want ultimately. Perhaps they ought to have just grown a pair, replaced the bits and tested your parts in a car they had on the forecourt at a later date. Instead they have an unhappy customer ruining their reputation for the entire 86 community. Still it's their loss 1 Squadrone Rosso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 We've go a 426bhp Camaro SS drop top for two week from Saturday (American road trip from San Fran to Vegas and back up the coast) so hopefully, the issues will be a distant memory and when we get back and get the 86 back on the 28th, all will be perfect Well worst case - get them to swap it out for another car - I doubt you'd be unlucky twice... As you say, once it's sorted it'll be quickly forgotten. I've ALMOST forgotten that mine was run into... :-DOr you could just ship the Camaro back. That'd take the edge off :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 10, 2015 Well worst case - get them to swap it out for another car - I doubt you'd be unlucky twice... As you say, once it's sorted it'll be quickly forgotten. I've ALMOST forgotten that mine was run into... :-D Or you could just ship the Camaro back. That'd take the edge off :-D Her car has £4ks worth of extras. Would have to be a fresh build Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squadrone Rosso 82 Report post Posted September 11, 2015 Update from the garage. Same fault code came up so that's good I guess.Due to the value of the part, they say they have to seek pre-authority from Toyota before ordering / changing it.It being the ABS pump module. I guess they are expensive?Fingers crossed for the 28th then. Fully fixed & fully dependable:thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
