MikeB 79 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 Looks great Ross, I have mine booked in at TD in between Xmas and New Year for there EL manifold and remap. 2 Will T8WMM and S18 RSG reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 Video actually turned out not too bad Will, considering you were just resting the camera on the dash. Hopefully when the good weather comes around again we can do something similar, and by that point we might all have better equipment. But for what you had, the quality is great. Thanks again for posting I'm sure @Mike@TD.co.uk will appreciate the publicity too. 1 Mike@TD.co.uk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 I have to say, that sounds bleddy fantastic. I think this kit might be the new go to turbo kit for the 86 platform. I would be interested to see IAT data from a trackday or two at some point. 1 S18 RSG reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike@TD.co.uk 467 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 Just now, Ade said: I would be interested to see IAT data from a trackday or two at some point. Going to sort that after Christmas Ade with our car so i'll update the Turbo Kit thread with the logs. Thanks Mike 1 Ade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ade said: I have to say, that sounds bleddy fantastic. I think this kit might be the new go to turbo kit for the 86 platform. I would be interested to see IAT data from a trackday or two at some point. I haven't tracked it yet, nor have I logged anything, but I always have Torque open reading IAT's among others. Highest temp I've seen since install was 16C at 9C ambient after an hour of fairly passionate road driving. General driving it's rarely above 5C over ambient. Not sure how that compares to other kits, but seems ok to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Mike@TD.co.uk said: Going to sort that after Christmas Ade with our car so i'll update the Turbo Kit thread with the logs. Thanks Mike Fantastic. I'm just gonna say it. This kit could work very nicely with a Cosworth SC kit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bfranklyn86 52 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Ade said: I have to say, that sounds bleddy fantastic. I think this kit might be the new go to turbo kit for the 86 platform. I would be interested to see IAT data from a trackday or two at some point. Yeh this kit seems pretty tasty. Not too expensive, good peak whp number..... IIRC someone said it is essentially a GReddy turbo so there should be some track data from the FT86 forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, Bfranklyn86 said: Yeh this kit seems pretty tasty. Not too expensive, good peak whp number..... IIRC someone said it is essentially a GReddy turbo so there should be some track data from the FT86 forum. Not that I know much about the GReddy kit, but 15 seconds of Googling suggests to me that they are not even close. Different turbo, different routing of pipework, internet wastegate (GReddy) vs external (TD), different manifold design. The only similarity in terms of IAT's would be the proximity of the turbo to the intake pipe, which is quite similar on both kits, but the GReddy kit is open to the elements and the TD kit is blanketted and heat wrapped, so even that isn't a fair comparison. 1 Ade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 25 minutes ago, S18 RSG said: Not that I know much about the GReddy kit, but 15 seconds of Googling suggests to me that they are not even close. Different turbo, different routing of pipework, internet wastegate (GReddy) vs external (TD), different manifold design. The only similarity in terms of IAT's would be the proximity of the turbo to the intake pipe, which is quite similar on both kits, but the GReddy kit is open to the elements and the TD kit is blanketted and heat wrapped, so even that isn't a fair comparison. I'd agree with that. It will be the size of the intercooler and the airflow throguh it that will determine the IATs when lapping a circuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bfranklyn86 52 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 43 minutes ago, S18 RSG said: Not that I know much about the GReddy kit, but 15 seconds of Googling suggests to me that they are not even close. Different turbo, different routing of pipework, internet wastegate (GReddy) vs external (TD), different manifold design. The only similarity in terms of IAT's would be the proximity of the turbo to the intake pipe, which is quite similar on both kits, but the GReddy kit is open to the elements and the TD kit is blanketted and heat wrapped, so even that isn't a fair comparison. Ok I wasn't willing to commit 15 seconds of googling to that, sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 22 minutes ago, Bfranklyn86 said: Ok I wasn't willing to commit 15 seconds of googling to that, sorry. I wasn't trying to be a dick by the way (just re-read my post and realised how it could be taken as such), I was merely saying that I only read 15 seconds of the first result on Google, so by no means am I an expert on the matter lol. Just what I read in that 15 seconds looked like it was a completely different kit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jared 21 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 Some cools there man and a funky little vid aswell just a shame the weather was so shit on Saturday 1 S18 RSG reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 4 hours ago, S18 RSG said: Highest temp I've seen since install was 16C at 9C ambient after an hour of fairly passionate road driving. I'm sure mine are higher than that... will check tomorrow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 A bit late to this one... it's like my car's big brother! Sounds epic. What's the rest of your exhaust system? I'm running the TD UEL manifold but the rest stock from second cat back. Sounds nice but not as nice as yours Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 32 minutes ago, Mike said: I'm sure mine are higher than that... will check tomorrow! What? you have the TD turbo kit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, Ade said: What? you have the TD turbo kit? No... but would expect turbo to have higher? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike@TD.co.uk 467 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Ade said: What? you have the TD turbo kit? Not that i'm aware of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mike said: No... but would expect turbo to have higher? Yes it will be. Unless stuck in traffic your intake temp should be the same as ambient. Perhaps a 1 or 2C different due to sensor/calibration errors. Mine never read more than 1C different when hooning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 Don't forget the turbo has a front mounted air/air intercooler which is the best option for efficiency. Basically with a front mounted intercooler you are unlikely to have any issues. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for those with a water/air intercooler between their superchargers and inlet manifold as we have seen with the Sprintex setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 Don't forget the turbo has a front mounted air/air intercooler which is the best option for efficiency. Basically with a front mounted intercooler you are unlikely to have any issues. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for those with a water/air intercooler between their superchargers and inlet manifold as we have seen with the Sprintex setup. Don't want to derail the thread but that's not fair to lump them all into the air to water is rubbish group just becuase the sprintex was poorly designed. I have yet to see a kit produce lower IATs than my cossy which is air to water to air. My oem Mercedes C Class is also supercharged with air to water intercooling and does well in regards to IATs There are plenty of air to air turbo kits that over heat at the track too because the intercooler is undersized. Not that I am suggesting this one is, rather I hope it's not as a twin charged cosworth setup could be fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, Ade said: Don't want to derail the thread but that's not fair to lump them all into the air to water is rubbish group just becuase the sprintex was poorly designed. I have yet to see a kit produce lower IATs than my cossy which is air to water to air. My oem Mercedes C Class is also supercharged with air to water intercooling and does well in regards to IATs On the contrary, your supercharged setup will never see 40mpg cruising and 35mpg on a spirited drive. I'd take the savings in fuel and fitting over a degree or two lower IAT. Personal preference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, Ade said: Don't want to derail the thread but that's not fair to lump them all into the air to water is rubbish group just becuase the sprintex was poorly designed. I have yet to see a kit produce lower IATs than my cossy which is air to water to air. My oem Mercedes C Class is also supercharged with air to water intercooling and does well in regards to IATs On the contrary, your supercharged setup will never see 40mpg cruising and 35mpg on a spirited drive. I'd take the savings in fuel and fitting over a degree or two lower IAT. Personal preference. Sure. Not trying to spark a great debate just saying air to water isn't bad when designed well. Fuel consumption is not as bad as you'd think though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 P.s. my spirited drives in a bone stock car were around 20-23mpg 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ade said: P.s. my spirited drives in a bone stock car were around 20-23mpg 😂 The spirited drive in Will's video, plus the drive down and back, was still in the low to mid 30's. Plus, ya know, turbo noises. So yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted December 12, 2016 I was going to say, 35mpg on a spirited drive, really? I think the courtesy Aygo was reading lower than that while hooning down the back roads to work. 1 Bfranklyn86 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
