Special K 442 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 Power isn't the issue, it's the torque Where did you get this info from, Smudge? Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 No you won't, James has been running a sprintex for a while now with no issues. Well, he has issues but not these ones and generally unrelated. Is James running an auto box? Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 thanks for the update K looking forwards to the outcome to see if it's finally resolved, 1 question, do you think if I went for the Sprintex 210 kit would I run into the same issues if power is approx 260? I cannot give advice on this - I don't like superchargers, never have, they are for 'sound' freaks like Rasta in his Ford Focus at the traffic lights with 110db blasting out. . it's easy to turn up volume, not so easy to turn up performance . . ... I'm told a ghetto blaster is a free upgrade with every Sprintex/HKS system if you show your pension book ... ask Mark, he qualifies ( ) (What's the difference between "wound" and "injury" ? - injury was the lead singer with the Blockheads . . haha) Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Galaxian 6 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 injury was the lead singer with the Blockheads . . haha) Spec K Groan !!! BTW saw him in concert in the 80s, fell off his stool and bouncers had to put him back on it - poor bloke! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 I cannot give advice on this - I don't like superchargers, never have, they are for 'sound' freaks like Rasta in his Ford Focus at the traffic lights with 110db blasting out. . it's easy to turn up volume, not so easy to turn up performance . . Spec K I wouldn't say it's just for volume, you get more power but keep the same power delivery rather than a kick in the back and all of the power in one go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 I don't need luck - but I thank you for the good wishes. A flappy paddle autosystem will be state-of-the-art in a decade - you pudding-stirrers will be consigned to the scrapheap of mediocrity, second hand metal of insignificant worth, whereas the birthplace of innovation will forever be a scruffy development platform based in East London. Spec K Dual clutch transmissions, but not slush boxes with a set of paddles on the steering wheel. Also there are those of us out there which is worth remembering that actually like to drive a car properly and find it more rewarding as a result! I wonder why it is in car reviews these days that journos get excited at the prospect of a manual box or why Ferrari 355's are soaring in value as they are the last of the Ferrarris with a manual box? A driver's car should have a gearstick and three pedals in it's purest form. You're right about luck though, there is no such thing. 5 keelerad, Ade, Mark-in-Stoke and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 Is James running an auto box? Spec K Yup, his first 86 was a manual, but he swapped it for an auto Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 Dual clutch transmissions, but not slush boxes with a set of paddles on the steering wheel. Also there are those of us out there which is worth remembering that actually like to drive a car properly and find it more rewarding as a result! I wonder why it is in car reviews these days that journos get excited at the prospect of a manual box or why Ferrari 355's are soaring in value as they are the last of the Ferrarris with a manual box? A driver's car should have a gearstick and three pedals in it's purest form. You're right about luck though, there is no such thing. I have to reluctantly agree about dual clutch transmissions . . . far better than torque converters. And if purity requires three pedals and regular fondling of a phallic symbol sticking out of the floor I'll go to the top of our stairs . Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 I wouldn't say it's just for volume, you get more power but keep the same power delivery rather than a kick in the back and all of the power in one go Tareim, I don't know of any GT86 turbo which gives all the power in one go. . yes, the power is available much much earlier than with a supercharger but the skill is in the mapping . . which to my mind is a 'dark art', like turning lead into gold. . . spooky. As an indication these are figures from my last dyno run (June 2015 post HKS internals upgrade) which shows the progressive output - mapped at 1.05bar boost RPM / WHP / Torque lb-ft 3000 / 96.8 / 167.0 3500 / 159.9 / 236.5 4000 / 201.1 / 260.4 4500 / 244.3 / 281.3 5000 / 260.7 / 270.1 5500 / 286.8 / 270.1 6000 / 309.7 / 267.4 6120 / 316.2 / 267.7 6500 / 303.8 / 242.1 7000 / 301.1 / 222.9 Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riceburner 284 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 I have to agree with Lauren Keith I find flappy paddle driving totally unrewarding and would only own one for a daily commute on congested roads for a relaxed drive into work. I admire your resolve for what you are doing Keith after so many setbacks even though I feel you haven't been enjoying the car as much as you should.Anyway your new FT 1 is getting close to ordering 1 Special K reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 I have to agree with Lauren Keith I find flappy paddle driving totally unrewarding and would only own one for a daily commute on congested roads for a relaxed drive into work. I admire your resolve for what you are doing Keith after so many setbacks even though I feel you haven't been enjoying the car as much as you should.Anyway your new FT 1 is getting close to ordering Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GT86Jay 202 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 I cannot give advice on this - I don't like superchargers, never have, they are for 'sound' freaks like Rasta in his Ford Focus at the traffic lights with 110db blasting out. . it's easy to turn up volume, not so easy to turn up performance . . ... I'm told a ghetto blaster is a free upgrade with every Sprintex/HKS system if you show your pension book ... ask Mark, he qualifies ( ) (What's the difference between "wound" and "injury" ? - injury was the lead singer with the Blockheads . . haha) Spec K My HKS charger is silent, no whine. I think the problem is by the time you've spent all the money and time on upgrades and research and development, you must be getting on to the cost of just putting a new box in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 My HKS charger is silent, no whine. I think the problem is by the time you've spent all the money and time on upgrades and research and development, you must be getting on to the cost of just putting a new box in? Hi Jay, good to hear from you.. I have a new box - built by SSP in the State and shipped over - it's the one in the car at present and is the one that Fensport are modifying. The previous box (that burned out at Woodbridge) is back with SSP. I also have a third autobox which I bought s/hand as a spare 12 months ago . . Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 so what exactly are fensport doing with that box then Keith? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinA 695 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 "Skill is in the mapping " yes Keith and I am lucky to have had cars mapped by some of the BEST. Power progression is very important. I'm with Lauren pedals and stick for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 so what exactly are fensport doing with that box then Keith?They modified it. The exact mods are confidential at present, due to commercial considerations.I have used in on road since they did the mods (800 miles). And got the first opportunity to try it in a trackday environment at Donington last Thursday. Six GT86 drivers there. I took all of them out for a 4-5 lap passenger run. I had no issues with the trans, as they will all confirm. This was in map2, which is only 280-odd bhp whereas I have 320bhp on tap in map4. Torque in map2 is nowhere near torque in map4, so it is still too early, in my view, to call it as a total success.Tareim - there is unquestionably a limit to which a 'modified auto' GT86 will perform and I reckon Fensport and I are getting close. Whilst we believe we have identified the major issue (in close consuiltation with SSP in the States) there is further testing required. So I am looking at other options over the winter but I need to look at both engineering and cost aspects.Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 I'd only be looking at 280bhp so I should be fine if I decided to go FI? still keep toying with the idea to do it or not when the money arrives Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
