toyokid 27 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 I have Tein 25mm drop springs fitted, allied to 17" x 7" Oz Superleggeras ET35 with 225 x 45 tyres and find the handling pretty sharp, can I fit add ons to improve the ride over rough ground? Thanks in advance. Stephen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 Improve in what sense? To soak up bumps more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 Sounds like you want a 'comfort upgrade' rather than handling per se. The short answer is no, you can't add anything to improve the ride over rough ground. The longer answer is that the dampers are relatively short stroke as standard which means there is limited travel to start with, so this makes it harder to achieve a more comfortable ride. If you went and splashed out 4-8K on coilovers that are rally spec, then yes you can get an amazing ride over rough ground, though you'll likely need to rebuild them at every service. They'll be absolutely amazing but for obvious reasons nobody does this on a road car. I have the Tein flex with EDFC active pro and this does a pretty good job of making the ride supple enough, but tightens up when you load the suspension as it's got active control of the damping force that adjusts constantly from soft to hard according to load. But even then rough ground will make itself felt. That will cost you about £2.5K fitted and should last pretty well. Also the full travel of the dampers is kept because you have adjustable spring platforms. When you lowered your car on stock dampers by 25mm, you lost 25mm of travel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 Just out of interest, didn't you have the BC's fitted. How did you find them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 I was thinking about the extended lower arms, do they help geometry? Stephen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 They make it easier to adjust, but that won't help your ride comfort issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShinyBRZ 16 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 Smaller diameter wheels would give a better ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted May 16, 2014 ... or you could install a driver seat cushion....? Spec K 1 KevinA reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveoexige 11 Report post Posted May 16, 2014 Fatter / taller tyres with a softer side wall. Longer travel shocks with sensible spring rates would help too. Best of all - fit an airbag suspension system - Rolls Royce soft and height adjustable 2 inches either way at the flick of a switch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 Would be good have a ride in your car Lauren, shame I didn't have time at Oulton Park! I like the sounds of Bilstein coilovers as well, having used them on both my Celicas Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 No probs, I'm at Blyton Park tomorrow afternoon. My car isn't on track but I can show you on the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keethos 842 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 LOL, Lauren has Tein coilovers, not Bilstein coilovers I know they still have the work tein in the name but still Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 Why does he want to go in my car then? Confused! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keethos 842 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 Ah my bad, I thought he said that he liked the sound of your Bilsteins as he used to have them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 he is tossing between the tein and bilstein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 I think he wants to see what mine is like if I read it correctly. Always good to check out what is available I reckon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted July 18, 2014 Steve - if you get yourself a 'passenger ticket' you can come on track tomorrow in mine... mind you I've got a lot of retuning to do, following their re-valve at Tein UK.... Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 11, 2014 Sorry I wasn't able to make it to the TSS round! Have done a bit of research around the American forums which have used Bilstein for a year or more, the feedback seems to be that they work best at higher ride heights (wanted) and maybe work better on the road (progressive springs). The struts are built to a higher standard than oem which should aid the ride. On rough uncambered North Yorkshire roads I found my previous BC coilovers did not perform well at higher ride heights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 11, 2014 Another option would be to fit Koni inserts to use with my Tein comfort springs, this again would raise standards above oem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 11, 2014 Going to fit some alloy wheel nuts, the standard ones have rusted very quickly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted August 11, 2014 I had the Koni's before my Tein's, they worked and were ok for road but honestly you could probably do with some better adjustability. It's one of them things you can cheap out on and regret later. Seems you've done that once and learnt! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 I have pretty much decided to get Bilstein B16 coilovers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Need to find out about revalving the shockers, which seems to suit uk roads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Seem to remember my Celica st205 was running 350/130 on a 1400kg car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyokid 27 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Just ordered a racing version of a poly bush gear lever insert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
