Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 Didn't want to crash the other similar thread with my particular interest so... Doing a bit of reading around, the most effective way to make the most of the car when staying NA seems to be to fit a decat or hi flow manifold and then remap. I may be inclined to keep the rest of the stock system as I've no particular wish to advertise my presence, just to release a few more horses and get rid of the torque dip. I realise if I go FI I might have to start again, but not overly fussed as that'd be a few years off and may never happen. The car is very nearly quick enough. I figure it might be best to get this supplied, fitted and mapped at the same time. Any recommendations? (Northern for preference) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinA 695 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 TD seem very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike@TD.co.uk 467 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 Our manifold can be used for NA or FI with our turbo kit for future reference, we have them in stock and obviously are an ECUTeK tuner If I can be of any help then give me a shout! Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 Our manifold can be used for NA or FI with our turbo kit for future reference, we have them in stock and obviously are an ECUTeK tuner If I can be of any help then give me a shout! Thanks Aha. I didn't realise that - thought you were mainly focuses on FI. Great - well that's worth knowing. I know you know your stuff. I've seen your trick Celica. 'Nuff said :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 It's worth considering changing the final drive too. Made a world of difference to mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 46 minutes ago, Foulsmell said: It's worth considering changing the final drive too. Made a world of difference to mine. Sorry it's a bit off topic but how much did fitting the final drive cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 46 minutes ago, Foulsmell said: It's worth considering changing the final drive too. Made a world of difference to mine. Sorry it's a bit off topic but how much did fitting the final drive cost? I'd budget for a full days labour at your garage of choice. If it comes in less then take it as a bonus. 1 Deacon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 It's worth considering changing the final drive too. Made a world of difference to mine. What, on a manual? Not sure about that - bet it'd be fun, but I like a long legged 6th for the motorway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 Yep a manual. It only raises the rpm by approx 300 rpm. Not noticeable in 6th. On the motorway the extra torque is great for overtaking. No need to drop down to press on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 what's the FD ratio on the manual and what do you change it for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 It's the same as the auto, 4.1. Its only the gear ratios that are different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 what's the FD ratio on the manual and what do you change it for? 4.1. 4.1 changed to 4.67 = 13% increase which = 13% more torque at the hubs. 1 Tareim reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 11 hours ago, knightryder said: It's the same as the auto, 4.1. Its only the gear ratios that are different. are you sure? I thought I read somewhere that it was the final drive that was different, would love to see the gear ratios then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 1 hour ago, Tareim said: are you sure? I thought I read somewhere that it was the final drive that was different, would love to see the gear ratios then Yeah, auto and manual have the same FD. I would typically advise 4.44/4.56 for a manual and the next one up for an auto, 4.56/4.67, for NA cars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GT86Jay 202 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 ____AT ___MT __# differenc _% difference1 _3.626 __3.538 __0.088 ____2%2 _2.188 __2.06 ___0.128 ____6%3 _1.541 __1.404 __0.137 ____10%4 _1.213 __1 ______0.213 ____21%5 _1 ______0.713 __0.287 ____40%6 _0.767 __0.582 __0.185 ____32%R _3.437 __3.168 __0.269 ____8% 2 Tareim and AJ124 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 Oy! Enough with the final drive mods on my manifold/remap thread Interesting though it is, I'm not swapping that out for mine as a daily driver - can get 40mpg plus if I concentrate at the moment. As a weekend car it'd be a no brainer. 1 Foulsmell reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 I was looking at the Speedfactory catted UEL. I'm a bit dubious of aftermarket cats though. They don't seem to last long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 To be honest, if I were certain it'd manage an MOT with just the secondary cat I'd just leave the primary cat off, but juries still out, not least given that not all that many 86s have been MOTed yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 1 hour ago, Foulsmell said: I was looking at the Speedfactory catted UEL. I'm a bit dubious of aftermarket cats though. They don't seem to last long. I went for JDL UEL catted based on their top reputation in the states, hopefully their cat is of good quality considering the price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 1 hour ago, Foulsmell said: I was looking at the Speedfactory catted UEL. I'm a bit dubious of aftermarket cats though. They don't seem to last long. I went for JDL UEL catted based on their top reputation in the states, hopefully their cat is of good quality considering the price How much are they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 13 minutes ago, Foulsmell said: How much are they? I can't remember the exact figure off hand but I went for a thermal coated option (so most expensive) and including import charges etc it was close to 900 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foulsmell 120 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 Gulp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pitman 188 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 53 minutes ago, Nicebiscuit said: To be honest, if I were certain it'd manage an MOT with just the secondary cat I'd just leave the primary cat off, but juries still out, not least given that not all that many 86s have been MOTed yet... My GT86 passed its MOT with only the AVO high flow cat (at a Toyota Dealer, so no fiddle) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted December 10, 2015 28 minutes ago, Foulsmell said: Gulp. it's worth it, when I had my car remapped I was told that my car was producing more power from it than another gt86 that was in previously with a full system (manifold back) so you really do get your moneys worth 1 Foulsmell reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted December 11, 2015 28 minutes ago, Foulsmell said: Gulp. it's worth it, when I had my car remapped I was told that my car was producing more power from it than another gt86 that was in previously with a full system (manifold back) so you really do get your moneys worth So did you just have the manifold at the point you got remapped, or did you have other mods? Can't remember what else you've got... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
