keelerad 256 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 See also youtube vids As I have just got a new phone and new adpator and had to configure it again, I thought I'd add a thread on here for the benefit of others The Torque App Its an app (http://torque-bhp.com/) that can be run on an Android device to monitor the vehicles ECU using a blue tooth adaptor plugged into the ODBII port (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics#OBD-II) The torque app lets you monitor various data points that the ECU uses and can also display (and if you purchase the paid for version, reset) vehicle fault codes The torque app will also use your devices GPS and accelorometers to allow speed and G to be measured and it can log data against GPS location, producing a map that overlays on Google maps of your speed or oil temp on a journey. The adaptor This plugs into the ODBII port provided by manufacturers for monitoring the ECU and makes data available to another device via bluetooth. This can be anything the ECU monitors examples include rpm, coolant temp, oil temp, inlet temp, air fuel ratio etc. The one you want is an ELM327 one. They come in various shapes but with where its situated on the '86 you either want a short one or some sort of extension or its likely to hit your left leg when driving The one I got was this one from fleabay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231164930452?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649) you can get cheaper ones but the £8 one I bought last time stopped working after about 6 months so I thought I'd risk a bit more this time Plug in the adaptor You can find the connector for it under the dash, look above where your left knee would be when seated and you should find it. Note the connector is shaped so you have to get it the right way round Pair the ODBII device to your Android device Power on your car to power up the dongle, I did it with the engine running so I knew it would have power. Go into your device settings and make sure bluetooth is on and search for new devices Mine appeared at first as a HEX address a bit like a MAC address ie AA:11:22:33:44:DD but then updated to appear with the name OBDII Select the device and it should ask you enter a pairing code, for mine this was 1234, some use 0000, check with your supplier if neither work Start Torque When you start Torque it will ask you to choose the bluetooth device, select the adaptor you paired above. If you then select Realtime information the Torque App will start displaying data received from your car, rpm is the obvious one to check, press the go pedal and watch it rise ! You can configure the display to change what is shown, you can also modify what data is logged on a journey There is also some point where it asks for setting up a profile for your car, it does this when you first use it but as mine is already setup I can't remember what it asked. To reconfigure the display press and hold on any of the dials to get a menu that lets you delete, move, resize, change dial type To add a new display press and hold on an empty area of the screen and you get a add menu Oil Temperature Although Oil Temperature is a normal ODBII PID our car doesn't use the standard one, it uses a bespoke one instead. The Torque App can be configured to monitor this custom PID as follows Open the Torque app and then hit the menu button. Select "Manage extra PIDs/Sensors" (should be second from the bottom). Hit the menu key again and select "Add custom PID". Enter the following information OBD2 Mode and PID: 2101 Minimum Value: -40 Maximum Value: 215 Scale factor: x1 Unit type: C Equation: AC-40 OBD Header: 7E0 Hit ok. The oil temp parameter will now be available for logging and real time display. 3 Andrew Smith, AJ124 and Pitman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelerad 256 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Output diplay showing a range of values, these update in real time, the HP is calculated based on the acceleration and the vehicle weight you put in when setting up your vehicle profile (so if you want to impress the gullible enter the weight as 12500Kg and you'll get big HP figures ) Google map overlay showing variation in oil temp, showing rise from start at 10 to peak temp of 110, this is viewable after a journey and can be changed to display any of the PIDs you chose to log You can also take videos with the Torque App and incorporate the gauges into the videos, they are hidden behind the black bar that youtube sticks at the top of the sreen, hit play and you'll see them Sorry for the quality of the video, it was taken with my Nexus 7 on a headrest mount and it was bouncing all over the place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keethos 842 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 Great stuff Alec, I need to set mine up again.....but I'm waiting for Jay to get his ass in gear so we can have this running off our head units Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benno86 2 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 what figures did you put in for working out the hp ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 what figures did you put in for working out the hp ? The weight of the car. At a guess 1250kgs + fuel and your weight. Tis a fairly pointless part of the display though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelerad 256 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 As I said, put in a bigger number and impress the gullible, it's never going to be very accurate anyway Alec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pitman 188 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 I have ordered one of the Bluetooth adaptors suggested above, should be with me tomorrow. I have an 'old' Samsung phone that I will be using with Torq to monitor the data points my existing gauges don't, mainly inlet temp and actual water and oil temps (only have indications of these currently). Thank you for the great write up, Alec - glad to see you religiously stuck to the speed limit in the video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 442 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 Yep... pity it's such an incredibly bumpy road.... Spec K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelerad 256 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 Its not that bumpy, just looks worse as it was filmed with a Nexus7 on a headrest mount facing forward, the thing was bouncing all over the place Alec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 Got one from the link in the original post, seems to work fine but only did a quick test with it... need to find somewhere to try a 0-60 time to see if the 7.7s is actually accurate and not a 0-62 (with a change to 3rd) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LarsB 12 Report post Posted January 9, 2015 Do you guys leave your OBDII Scanners/adaptors plugged in 24/7 ? Bought a ELM327 and thinks about just leaving it plugged in, but how about power drainage ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted January 9, 2015 I wouldn't as it will transmit continously and possibly drain your battery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LarsB 12 Report post Posted January 9, 2015 I wouldn't as it will transmit continously and possibly drain your battery. Decided to not keep it plugged in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 I wouldn't as it will transmit continously and possibly drain your battery. OBD doesn't talk unless the ignition is on I think. At least this is what i'm assuming as my gauge is plugged in all the time and it doesn't work without ignition. Nor does my ecutek cable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LarsB 12 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 OBD doesn't talk unless the ignition is on I think. At least this is what i'm assuming as my gauge is plugged in all the time and it doesn't work without ignition. Nor does my ecutek cable. The adaptor it self is lighting up like a christmas tree when plugged in, and without ignition, so it is drawing power - but its hard to check if it does the same with the doors locked... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 It can't draw much, led's aren't worth taking in to account here imo. They will draw less than the alarm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 OBD doesn't talk unless the ignition is on I think. At least this is what i'm assuming as my gauge is plugged in all the time and it doesn't work without ignition. Nor does my ecutek cable. Wrong and wrong.... you can turn on the P3 without the car being on and the ECUtek cable shows an LED all the time even when the car is off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Wrong and wrong.... you can turn on the P3 without the car being on and the ECUtek cable shows an LED all the time even when the car is off. How? and yes you're right ECUtek shows an LED, but I said it doesn't talk. Which is true. You would be lucky to even see that LED drawing 0.1w of power so it's really nothing to be concerned about imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
