lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Hi all, Looking to get a set of black alloys for the 86. Currently running stock suspension and will most likely stay like that as I live in the bumpy fens.... Wondered if people have any recommendations? I'm new to changing wheels on car, so don't really know what brands to avoid etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucas 244 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 You should definitely get RAYS Quality Japanese wheels! https://www.part-box.com/index.php?route=product/isearch&search=gramlights 18&description=true 1 spikyone reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 "Best" is subjective thing. Define more specific what do you wish to gain. Lighter weight? Different diameter/width/offset? Specific looks? Of specific strength? For what intended use? What is available budget? With no input on those, if money is no object, i'd say to get TWS T66-F of wished size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdstrike 186 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Rim choice 101 it is then! Bigger diameter and/or width is heavier Heavier unsprung weight reduces the agility of the car and suspension capability over bumps Wider tyres give you a little more grip, but usually make it more expensive. See also offset below For best comfort stick to 17" rims. For style, consider 18" Wrong offset is big trouble Too far inset and your new wheels don't clear the brakes Too much poke and your tyres can rub on the arches in corners and over bumps, or fail MOT if they extend beyond the arches. Standard OEM fit is 7Jx17 ET48, 5x100 -> Example willtheyfit.com OEM wheels are fairly light You can't just go to Halfords and pick up some steel rims without consequences RAYS, OZ etc. make lighter wheels still. For reference, the GT86 Aero came with OZ 18" superleggeras or something like that Forged wheels are stronger, but very expensive Don't buy end-of-run rims, in case you bust one and can't replace it Buying fitted new tyres with the rims can save some money - useful if you change tyre size and you like the tyre brand offered Watch out for import taxes if your wheel of choice is from overseas Staggered wheel sizes are not generally a good idea unless you know what you're doing If I ever get around to it, my next wheel will probably be from OZ, but RAYS make fine looking wheels. Rota... TWS... there are a stupid number of brands out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Church said: "Best" is subjective thing. Define more specific what do you wish to gain. Lighter weight? Different diameter/width/offset? Specific looks? Of specific strength? For what intended use? What is available budget? With no input on those, if money is no object, i'd say to get TWS T66-F of wished size. Yes, good point! Ideally 17s and nothing that'd completely change the type of ride. Daily use, looking at around £650-700. 27 minutes ago, nerdstrike said: Rim choice 101 it is then! Bigger diameter and/or width is heavier Heavier unsprung weight reduces the agility of the car and suspension capability over bumps Wider tyres give you a little more grip, but usually make it more expensive. See also offset below For best comfort stick to 17" rims. For style, consider 18" Wrong offset is big trouble Too far inset and your new wheels don't clear the brakes Too much poke and your tyres can rub on the arches in corners and over bumps, or fail MOT if they extend beyond the arches. Standard OEM fit is 7Jx17 ET48, 5x100 -> Example willtheyfit.com OEM wheels are fairly light You can't just go to Halfords and pick up some steel rims without consequences RAYS, OZ etc. make lighter wheels still. For reference, the GT86 Aero came with OZ 18" superleggeras or something like that Forged wheels are stronger, but very expensive Don't buy end-of-run rims, in case you bust one and can't replace it Buying fitted new tyres with the rims can save some money - useful if you change tyre size and you like the tyre brand offered Watch out for import taxes if your wheel of choice is from overseas Staggered wheel sizes are not generally a good idea unless you know what you're doing If I ever get around to it, my next wheel will probably be from OZ, but RAYS make fine looking wheels. Rota... TWS... there are a stupid number of brands out there. This is great help, thank you so much! I'm a moron when it comes to wheels, never really know what it all means.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Imho rather safe and popular choice are Enkei RPF1 17x8 +45. Light for cast wheel and of reasonable cost/strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, Church said: Imho rather safe and popular choice are Enkei RPF1 17x8 +45. Light for cast wheel and of reasonable cost/strength. These? https://www.tarmacsportz.co.uk/brands/enkei-wheels/enkei-rpf1-17x8-et45-5x100-73mm-bore-matt-black.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 442 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, lewism1 said: These? https://www.tarmacsportz.co.uk/brands/enkei-wheels/enkei-rpf1-17x8-et45-5x100-73mm-bore-matt-black.html Those will do you, but just FYI, the price is for 1 rim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Ouch. I hadn't even considered to check EU prices. They were so way cheaper in US shops with cost like $245 per wheel and such. Well, then looks like my suggestion too far out of stated budget. Then how about Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2? 1 lewism1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Shame as they're proper nice lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam534 62 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Ouch. I hadn't even considered to check EU prices. They were so way cheaper in US shops with cost like $245 per wheel and such. Well, then looks like my suggestion too far out of stated budget. Then how about Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2?Decent wheels. Sent from my STF-L09 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 If you're going with 17 x 8 wheels, which I agree is a good size (I use Rota Blitz in this size), then a better offset is ET35 which will give you good fitment in the wheel arch rather than being set too far in. Use 225/45 R17 tyres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, MartinT said: If you're going with 17 x 8 wheels, which I agree is a good size (I use Rota Blitz in this size), then a better offset is ET35 which will give you good fitment in the wheel arch rather than being set too far in. Use 225/45 R17 tyres. Can't find them in black, only silver. Proper nice though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Look about right for pro race 1.2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 442 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, lewism1 said: Look about right for pro race 1.2? Personally, I would be tempted to go for a slightly lower offset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nimz 70 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 They will fit but they will fit exactly like the stock wheels, most people when getting new wheels prefer to get a wider wheel and lower offset so they are more flush with the arches. 1 lewism1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Paul said: Personally, I would be tempted to go for a slightly lower offset. They have 38 or 35. Lower offset means they stick out further, right? Or am I being thick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nimz said: They will fit but they will fit exactly like the stock wheels, most people when getting new wheels prefer to get a wider wheel and lower offset so they are more flush with the arches. Okay, so 35 and then 225 tyres? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nimz 70 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, lewism1 said: They have 38 or 35. Lower offset means they stick out further, right? Or am I being thick. Yes, lower the offset, the further towards the arch they will be. Just had a look, they do those wheels in an 8" wide, 35 offset which would be a decent fitment. You can still run the stock 215 tyres on an 8" or you can choose to go to a 225 for a bit more grip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nimz said: Yes, lower the offset, the further towards the arch they will be. Just had a look, they do those wheels in an 8" wide, 35 offset which would be a decent fitment. You can still run the stock 215 tyres on an 8" or you can choose to go to a 225 for a bit more grip. Okay cool thanks for clearing that up. I can't find them 8 wide with 35 offset, only 38 offset wheb setting 8 wide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nimz 70 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, lewism1 said: Okay cool thanks for clearing that up. I can't find them 8 wide with 35 offset, only 38 offset wheb setting 8 wide. I was looking at the ones below, matt black? It's only 3mm difference either way. The fronts should be more or less flush, the rears would be flush with a 10mm spacer or so but it isn't necessary. 1 lewism1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Nimz said: I was looking at the ones below, matt black? It's only 3mm difference either way. The fronts should be more or less flush, the rears would be flush with a 10mm spacer or so but it isn't necessary. Ah okay lol. Like them in matt too. Okay, I think I'll get those then. Think it's worth getting 225? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nimz 70 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, lewism1 said: Ah okay lol. Like them in matt too. Okay, I think I'll get those then. Think it's worth getting 225? Personal preference really, most people who are looking for better performing tyres will go slightly wider to a 225 and a higher quality tyre such as the Michelin PS4 , better grip, more predictable than the stock. Others like the stock tyres purely for the fun factor, if you don't have a problem with how your current tyres perform then you could always swap those tyres on to the new wheels and slap winter tyres on your stock wheels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewism1 8 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Nimz said: Personal preference really, most people who are looking for better performing tyres will go slightly wider to a 225 and a higher quality tyre such as the Michelin PS4 , better grip, more predictable than the stock. Others like the stock tyres purely for the fun factor, if you don't have a problem with how your current tyres perform then you could always swap those tyres on to the new wheels and slap winter tyres on your stock wheels. Okay! Thanks so much for the help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 "Supposedly" for x8 wheel width by manufacturers (with more on safe side), min tire width 215, ideal 225 or 235, max 245. And reasonable not overdone slight stretch is not too bad or dangerous, as remove some slack from tire sidewalls, supposedly a bit sharpening handling. I wouldn't go lower then 205 on x8 though, as overstretching (there is such trend aswell among different out there, like stance lowering, hella camber and so on ..) one increases risk of tire separation from wheel. Hmm, though there is this bit too, not sure if legally applicable @UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites