MikeB 79 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, Lauren said: My pads are driving me bonkers, to the point of where I'm looking to change them, just for a quieter life! Why don't you try Ferodo DS2500, you have been in my car on track and it breaks really well and no fade and not a lot of brake dust!...they cost the same as oem though £150 for front set Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 509 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, MikeB said: Why don't you try Ferodo DS2500, you have been in my car on track and it breaks really well and no fade and not a lot of brake dust!...they cost the same as oem though £150 for front set I've heard that the DS2500's are dusty as hell! 1 Ade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeB 79 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, TTR said: I've heard that the DS2500's are dusty as hell! Nope not a problem, yes the produce dust but nowhere near as much as other pads and does not eat into your wheels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Lauren said: My pads are driving me bonkers, to the point of where I'm looking to change them, just for a quieter life! Should hear my pads, front left doesn't have any copper grease on which has made that one squeal louder I must be only person who likes them to squeal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, MikeB said: Why don't you try Ferodo DS2500, you have been in my car on track and it breaks really well and no fade and not a lot of brake dust!...they cost the same as oem though £150 for front set Too expensive. Not paying that much. Under a £100 is preferable. The Project Mu's were expensive, but shite. I've only done about 5K miles on them. Not making that mistake again. Kev found me some PFC's for £50 for the fronts, but the rears are £129, so not keen on that. I may just go back with the Stoptechs. Their quietness being the main selling point. 1 MikeB reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 509 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Lauren said: Too expensive. Not paying that much. Under a £100 is preferable. The Project Mu's were expensive, but shite. I've only done about 5K miles on them. Not making that mistake again. What pads were you on previously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Stoptechs. Much preferred those. In all honesty, I think comparing the stock pads, to Stoptech and Project Mu, they're all the same in the end. They will all fade away, so I'm starting to think it's just money for old rope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeB 79 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, TTR said: I've heard that the DS2500's are dusty as hell! 4 minutes ago, Lauren said: Stoptechs. Much preferred those. In all honesty, I think comparing the stock pads, to Stoptech and Project Mu, they're all the same in the end. They will all fade away, so I'm starting to think it's just money for old rope. You said you always liked the Stoptech's and at least you tried the Mu's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Stoptechs. Much preferred those. In all honesty, I think comparing the stock pads, to Stoptech and Project Mu, they're all the same in the end. They will all fade away, so I'm starting to think it's just money for old rope. The project mu hc800+ can take more heat. The tradeoff is dusting and squeal. For your application a milder pads works so great, but its a fantastic pad for someone like Tashan who smoked a set of yellows in one trackday. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk 2 TTR and Deacon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 My hc800+'s don't squeal at all - they're quieter than the stock pad. They've done Oulton Park, Blyton and several thousand road miles. The difference is I bedded them in as Project Mu recommend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 I wasn't able to bed my pads in, having a dog in the car being the main issue. I did bed them in at Blyton at the sprint which I wouldn't recommend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lauren said: I wasn't able to bed my pads in, having a dog in the car being the main issue. I did bed them in at Blyton at the sprint which I wouldn't recommend. So saying they're shite because they squeal seems a bit wrong considering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 509 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Deacon said: So saying they're shite because they squeal seems a bit wrong considering. I think the best way to solve that is a BBK. If it doesn't solve it, you still have a BBK. Everyone's a winner! Just waiting on a price for the Stoptech 355mm kit 1 Deacon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, Deacon said: So saying they're shite because they squeal seems a bit wrong considering. Not really. Just because you followed the manufacturers instructions which were not included with the pad and your's dont' squeal, doesn't mean that everyone else has the same experience. I looked for a bedding in procedure, there wasn't a definitive one that I could find. The squealing is driving me mad. I don't want to buy a new set of pads after about 3K miles or whatever it is, but I'm coming close to that. In all honesty, a quiet pad is right at the top of my list of requirements. I sprint my car mostly, so brake pads don't hugely matter. The only time I've had a problem with pads on track is when they're getting a bit thin, like at Oulton in February and Castle Combe at Japfest 2015. As long as there is enough meat on them they all work fine really, including stock pads. The Stoptechs were the quietest pad I've had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 509 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Lets not complain about bed in procedures on my build thread 1 Bfranklyn86 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 I didn't start it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Bedding in instructions were on a leaflet in the box with mine 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Deacon said: Bedding in instructions were on a leaflet in the box with mine 👍 Mine had nothing, just a box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 517 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Mine had a little leaflet too but i just went out and smoked them until I could see a nice blue transfer layer on the disc. They do glaze and squeal like dieing pigs but you just need to stomp on them a bit to rebed them again (i.e. get the nice transfer layer). Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Yep, they certainly quieten down if I brake hard. I did get them really blue on the discs at Blyton in the first few runs. I do tend to find though that I'm barely using the brakes on the road in day to day driving through, which obviously makes them louder and louder, so it seems! 1 Ade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, Lauren said: Not really. Just because you followed the manufacturers instructions which were not included with the pad and your's dont' squeal, doesn't mean that everyone else has the same experience. I looked for a bedding in procedure, there wasn't a definitive one that I could find. 29 minutes ago, Lauren said: Not really. Just because you followed the manufacturers instructions which were not included with the pad and your's dont' squeal, doesn't mean that everyone else has the same experience. I looked for a bedding in procedure, there wasn't a definitive one that I could find. And just because you didn't follow the manufacturers instructions and do get squeal doesn't mean everyone else has the same experience. It also certainly doesn't mean the pads are 'shite'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 509 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 Good thing I seem to be tough on brakes eh? Maybe the Mu's are suited to me 1 Deacon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 3 MikeB, Ade and TTR reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 509 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Mike said: 5 Ade, surrey86, Lauren and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted May 30, 2017 My money's on Lauren's dog ate the bed in procedures. 3 Lauren, Mike and TTR reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites