Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Just occurred to me that my main fond memories of the AE86 was as a useful rally car in the Yorkshire forests back in the eighties. An Escort Mk2 successor in many ways in an era where affordable RWD cars had become harder to come by. I was wondering if anyone is using the GT86 for rallying. And is it any good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/motorsport/en/cars/gt86-cs-r3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shiftspark 41 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 They are not running them yet as they have a power steering problem that they haven't solved so are not due to rally them officially until next year. They will have launched a new car by then lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 if I had a 2nd one I would go rallying in it, would be a great fun little car for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Ooh yes. I see they do. That's gorgeous. I've tended to be of the opinion that rally cars have more relevance to road cars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I see the suspension is entirely different, with Tarmac and gravel specific components. I wonder how the Tarmac set up differs from the road car... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 23, 2015 There's also the Nameless car in the states. Very nice fabricated subframes on that one..http://rallytakeover.kinja.com/why-wait-for-toyota-the-gt86-rally-car-is-already-here-1466557793I have just noticed on their Facebook page they have turreted the rear end. This is exactly what I'm doing, but only going up about 40mm and I'm using billet machined turrets. Them there rear shocks are so darn short... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I see the suspension is entirely different, with Tarmac and gravel specific components. I wonder how the Tarmac set up differs from the road car... Reiger make it - maybe some info on their pages?http://reigersuspension.com/wordpress/English/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Ooh yes. I see they do. That's gorgeous. I've tended to be of the opinion that rally cars have more relevance to road cars. I would be more inclined to say that race cars are more relevant with Audi being the biggest example, their diesel technology is first tested in Le Mans 24 hr and trickles down to the road car, next will be their hybrid system from the r18 ultra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 23, 2015 They are not running them yet as they have a power steering problem that they haven't solved so are not due to rally them officially until next year.They will have launched a new car by then lolI don't understand why they changed to hydraulic power steering?? The top drifters retain the stock electric steering so it must be up to the job?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I don't understand why they changed to hydraulic power steering?? The top drifters retain the stock electric steering so it must be up to the job?? Certainly the first car I've had with electric power steering that hasn't made me wish it didn't... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I would be more inclined to say that race cars are more relevant with Audi being the biggest example, their diesel technology is first tested in Le Mans 24 hr and trickles down to the road car, next will be their hybrid system from the r18 ultra Fair point. I guess as far as drivetrain is concerned you have a point. I suppose I'm thinking of some excellent drivers cars that have effectively been homologation spin-offs... Quattro, integrale, Impreza, Evo to name a few. Or closer to home the 4wd Celicas in the late eighties/early nineties... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shiftspark 41 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I don't understand why they changed to hydraulic power steering?? The top drifters retain the stock electric steering so it must be up to the job?? It's more to do with using components that any one can use rather than making one off components to keep costs down in the r3 rally class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 23, 2015 It's more to do with using components that any one can use rather than making one off components to keep costs down in the r3 rally class.Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here?? They have made a hydraulic steering system rather than use the stock electric steering on the R3?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keethos 842 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I'd love to give rallying a go in general but I'd LOVE to do it in an 86. Could it be that the electric steering system isn't up to scratch from all the abuse of off road unlike drifters on smooth tarmac? Did the Evos, Scoobies, Quattros etc come from rally cars? I thought you could only make it a rally car if they were a production car or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I'd love to give rallying a go in general but I'd LOVE to do it in an 86. Could it be that the electric steering system isn't up to scratch from all the abuse of off road unlike drifters on smooth tarmac? Did the Evos, Scoobies, Quattros etc come from rally cars? I thought you could only make it a rally car if they were a production car or something? Quite - so they had to design something that they could sell sufficiently AND be competitive. The Group A years were the best for this due to the relatively low level of mods allowed and large volumes needed for homologation. Hence the Scooby WRX etc... But the few hundred road going Group B cars they had to build from the previous generation were pretty awesome machines. A road spec pug 205 t16 would be nice... ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Quite - so they had to design something that they could sell sufficiently AND be competitive. The Group A years were the best for this due to the relatively low level of mods allowed and large volumes needed for homologation. Hence the Scooby WRX etc... But the few hundred road going Group B cars they had to build from the previous generation were pretty awesome machines. A road spec pug 205 t16 would be nice... ;-)Available here..http://www.influx.co.uk/features/features-205-t16/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shiftspark 41 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here?? They have made a hydraulic steering system rather than use the stock electric steering on the R3?? From the R3 specs they still have electric power steering, this is on the news page , As a whole, the CS-R3 has performed very well during testing but selection of appropriate power steering has been a recurring difficulty. Due to the specific lay-out of the GT86, it has proved harder than expected to find a suitable power steering unit, which must be an off-the-shelf product according to FIA R3 regulations. More info here http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/motorsport/en/news-menu/11-english-categories/news/251-gt86-cs-r3-deliveries-postponed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbynog 9 Report post Posted August 26, 2015 Just been looking at the Toyota UK website and they seem to have details of a rally experience at Brands Hatch using what appears to be a fairly stock '86 Loks like fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted August 27, 2015 You can do the same at Oulton Park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted August 27, 2015 You can do the same at Oulton Park. Ooh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keethos 842 Report post Posted August 27, 2015 Just a note, the Rally event at Oulton Park is actually just on their skid/lower friction circuit I believe, not actually off road Rallying, no idea about Brands though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 27, 2015 Just a note, the Rally event at Oulton Park is actually just on their skid/lower friction circuit I believe, not actually off road Rallying, no idea about Brands though. brands have a gravel section for the GT86 experience, this is stated on their website Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
