Captain Duff 79 Report post Posted June 12, 2016 http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/124-spider/first-drive-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GglRPaz0Yo Love the look, love the sound, love the roof, not so keen on the price (around £29k, £10k more than the standard 124 Spider, or MX5 come to that), but is it a serious rival to the 86 or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GT86-Ian 351 Report post Posted June 12, 2016 http://toyotago.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2013-Toyota-GT-86-Convertible-Image.jpg Its not out yet. 1 Lauren reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted June 12, 2016 In a word, no. Uglier than the MX5 and far too much extra money. Shame. Was looking forward to it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted June 13, 2016 16 hours ago, Nicebiscuit said: In a word, YES. Better looking than the MX5 FTFY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted June 13, 2016 You think? Front is just too fat looking. Prefer the original. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted June 13, 2016 Mx5 is way better looking imho - the overhangs are just wrong on the fiat (especially at the back) and it looks so bloated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted June 13, 2016 I think it looks pretty good. Will be interesting to see how it reviews in the likes of EVO etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted June 13, 2016 The Fiat looks more beefier/aggressive to me which I prefer in this case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willtl 54 Report post Posted June 14, 2016 It isn't really a rival to the GT86/BRZ because it is for a slightly different audience with a different budget. If you are set on having a convertible, you won't be interested in the GT86. If you want that massive rear passenger space, you won't be interested in the Fiat (or MX5). The list is longer than that, but you get my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted June 14, 2016 I do, but the other thing is that by £30k you're into very decent s/h Boxster territory. Would be hard to say no to that... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willtl 54 Report post Posted June 14, 2016 I do, but the other thing is that by £30k you're into very decent s/h Boxster territory. Would be hard to say no to that... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Or a Focus RS, or save a bit more for a Mustang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicebiscuit 655 Report post Posted June 14, 2016 They're not really rivals either - but a Boxster has to be the benchmark for a 2 seater softtop... Abarth have always been a bit odd. I had a 500, which at the bottom of the range was a bit of fun for a small premium over the Fiat variant. But then it quickly got silly with some eye-wateringly expensive special editions. And in any case, if truth be told the twin-air was better anyway if you want a 500. The Abarth pushed a fairly limited platform a bit too far... Very cute though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Duff 79 Report post Posted June 15, 2016 On 6/14/2016 at 1:22 PM, Willtl said: It isn't really a rival to the GT86/BRZ because it is for a slightly different audience with a different budget. If you are set on having a convertible, you won't be interested in the GT86. If you want that massive rear passenger space, you won't be interested in the Fiat (or MX5). The list is longer than that, but you get my point. Yes, I get the horses for courses, and that the MX5/124 is in the 'roadster' box and GT86 in the 'sports coupe' one (although the contents of those boxes can easily spill from one box to another). In terms of looks I actually prefer the standard 124 (looks a lot nicer than the new MX5 to my eyes), but it was more the fact that unlike the Mustang (and leaving aside the price difference) the 86 and Arbarth 124 look on paper to be potentially interesting performance/handling competators at the smaller/lighter RWD end of the spectrum and a track/road head to head would be very interesting (perhaps in the case of the 86 the Cosworth version would be a better price/paper 0-60 match). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
