Zmithy 4 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 Another stupid question from me. Just getting round to fitting some BC racing coilovers and they have the metal top mounts on. Do you keep them on or swap for the rubber ones off the OE suspension? Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVO9000 54 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 I have metal ones on the front. The redesigned ones should come with a tapered spring for the rear and you have to use your standard top mounts. This was to eliminate the noise transfer problem myself and a lot of others had. So, in short. Metal front, OEM rear (as long as you've got the tapered spring). If your rears came with a metal top mount already fitted, send them back and ask for the new ones. Trust me, you'll have them back off after your first drive due to the noise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zmithy 4 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 Agh thanks Steve.. Wish I'd read your comment before I put them on.. I had the tapered spring and was like this is too big for the mount, so shoved the metal too mount on the rears. Drove it with no issues.. Will probably be whipping them off again on Wednesday then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVO9000 54 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 There should be like an arrangement of spacers or washers with it as well which you fit with your standard top mount. If you haven't got the instructions for that I'll check my email and see if I can find them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVO9000 54 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 Found, here you go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zmithy 4 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 I'll get that sorted shortly. I can easily fit things like this, but it's things like which direction do the front top mounts sit. I've used logic.. I think. The struts have letters on, L for left and R for right. Now I think I'm right in assuming these just stand for which way to face the top mount rather than which side of the car to fit the strut. This is my left hand (near side) strut with the R I assume means to point that part to the right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 I'm pretty sure you've got those the wrong way around. L is for the left hand side of the car R for the right. That's how mine and every other set I've ever seen installed are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 They also look like they are at an angle (but that might just be the picture angle) rather than straight across which is how people usually have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_GRMN 177 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 Just been and checked mine and you have them the wrong way round unfortunately... Ohh and I also kept the BC rear top mounts and don't get any of the knocking that other people have. Didn't have to use camber bolts either on the front (from your other thread) and I would always avoid using them unless really necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keethos 842 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 Not too sure if there'll be any problems having the left and right the wrong way round but in terms of rotating the top mounts so the camber adjustment is perfectly horizontal isn't 100% necessary, mine were deliberately installed at an angle to allow a bit of caster and camber adjustment. Obviously if you don't really want any caster adjustment then have them horizontal like others have mentioned above so you are purely adjusting the camber only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zmithy 4 Report post Posted August 30, 2015 I did try putting them the other way round, but the hole for the drop link was on the other side of the strut. So I thought that can't be right. So for example if I'm sat in the wheel arch of the RIGHT hand side, the drop link hole is on the left of the OE strut, with the brake hose bolted on the right. I've put the Coilie back in that mirrors this. If I was to put it on the other way, the brake hose won't reach to bolt into the strut.. I think someone's just put the top mounts on wrong? And I need to twist them round to get them to suit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zmithy 4 Report post Posted September 1, 2015 Anyone else have an idea? As mentioned I've just copied the way the OE struts were.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smudge 1020 Report post Posted September 1, 2015 L should definitely be on the left of the car, or the right hand side of the bonnet if you're looking at it from the front of the car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_GRMN 177 Report post Posted September 1, 2015 As smudge says... As a little helper there are R and L marks on the strutbraces where they join the bulkhead. I have mine the other way round to what you have them fitted. I would try changing the top mounts around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted September 1, 2015 I wish I'd bought BC coil overs now. I have Ohlins from Apex Performance Parts, delivered damaged and they're not interested!!£2500 on coil overs and not a leg to stand on!!Edit.. looks like Apex are getting this sorted now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeisterR 34 Report post Posted September 2, 2015 I wish I'd bought BC coil overs now. I have Ohlins from Apex Performance Parts, delivered damaged and they're not interested!! £2500 on coil overs and not a leg to stand on!! That is pretty hardcore, I would of thought Ohlins would be all over things like this given their price point? Jerrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zmithy 4 Report post Posted September 2, 2015 Feel for you nige! These coilies are rather good tbh.. But then I've never used the Ohlins ones so wouldn't know! Can someone else who has the BC Racing coilies do me a favour? Put your car on full LEFT lock, and take a picture of the RIGHT side suspension, just like I have below. See if it matches up with mine. I can't find fitting instructions anywhere. I appreciate the strut tops have left and right letters on them, however if I was to put the strut with the R sticker on top of it on right hand side of the car, the drop link would not fit on, nor would the brake hose bolt into it. If anyone could take a picture like mine of the Right hand wheel arch it would be much appreciated. Can of beer if I ever see you at a meet! I spoke to fensport who said that my logic makes sense.. But you guys have them different so have rather confused me! If anyone fancies posting a picture of their top mounts installed too that would be ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_GRMN 177 Report post Posted September 2, 2015 I'm currently en route to France but will be able to take a pic on Friday if no one else has beat me too it... There may be some in my project thread come to think of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qu1nt 1 Report post Posted September 2, 2015 Here you go, hope this helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_GRMN 177 Report post Posted September 2, 2015 Zmithy I would guess that either the top mounts or bottom mounts have been assembled the wrong way round... (Can't remember where you said you got them from but maybe they were stripped and greased by them before assembly, that's what I did with mine) As Keith said could either leave as is and have a bit of caster adjustment as well or switch them around yourself... should just be a case of unscrewing the bottom mounts right off the damper unit and swapping them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted September 2, 2015 That is pretty hardcore, I would of thought Ohlins would be all over things like this given their price point? JerrickThey are. now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zmithy 4 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 All sorted now. Top mounts all mounted correctly, just span off the bottom section and swapped them over.appreciate all the help from everyone, so thankyou for that.Now for another question! Now that I have these coulovers, so I need camber bolts or not? 1 Keethos reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deacon 1357 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 All sorted now. Top mounts all mounted correctly, just span off the bottom section and swapped them over.appreciate all the help from everyone, so thankyou for that.Now for another question! Now that I have these coulovers, so I need camber bolts or not?Not for the front as you have the camber plates. If you want to alter the rear cambers though you'll need wither lower control arms or camber bushes. If you go the camber bush route the whiteline ones are far easier to adjust than the superpro ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee 82 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 The camber plates alone may not give you the amount of camber you are after, KW ones didnt go as much as I wanted anyway so ended up getting bolts aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL03JOE 104 Report post Posted October 18, 2015 Interesting this as just fitted set of bc to brothers mini and its knocking on the rear so it maybe the rear stop mounts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites