long-gone 152 Report post Posted July 28, 2016 I don't suppose anyone can confirm it's a (relatively) simple matter of switching a cable or two to switch the tail and brake lights on these? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan7954 35 Report post Posted July 28, 2016 This is Japanese to usa. So just the reverse applys. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40235 1 long-gone reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan7954 35 Report post Posted July 28, 2016 Actually, it doesn't show the before for you to replicate. Oops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted July 28, 2016 Nice one Dan. Ta. I'll give it a try this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted July 28, 2016 43 minutes ago, Dan7954 said: Actually, it doesn't show the before for you to replicate. Oops. Arse biscuits. At least I know it can be done so maybe a little trial and error is necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted July 29, 2016 Trial and error ain't working. I'm too thick and don't have the patience. If anyone could tell me the correct pin outs it'd be much appreciated. Virtual internet beers to anyone who can help. 1 rob275 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan7954 35 Report post Posted July 29, 2016 Could be worth while asking on the US forums for a pic/info of stock arrangement of their connector, then you can copy it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted July 29, 2016 Yep. Posted over there too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob275 1817 Report post Posted July 29, 2016 Sorry I wish i could help but i'm just as clueless as you, perhaps a japanese contact is what you need to ask the manufacturer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom B 44 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Is the problem the Tail lights come on when the brake pedal is pressed, and brake lights come on when tail lights are switched on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Yep, that sounds about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom B 44 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 I'm not certain (but by the looks of it no one else is!) that if you can get your hands on a multimeter and check for voltage on the cars plug and determine which cable is for brakes, lights, indicators, then you'd just have to trace the ones in the tail light and match them up!.... Not sure if that's any help to you but I'll buy them off you for a fiver if you can't get them to work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Heh. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. As there are three functions; tail light, brake light and indiwinker and four pins - am I right to assume one is earth so will remain in the same place and then juggle the other three until I get it right? How do I determine which is earth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom B 44 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Assuming they're not using a mounting screw as 0v, then yeah that's how I'd imagine they're wired. Check the plug for a tiny marking that may give away which is 0v. A cheapo multimeter will help you out a lot. Otherwise you could just keep swapping them about - Have some spare fuses at the ready tho! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tareim 343 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 black would normally be ground but there is 2 in this case so I wouldn't be too sure on that, are the colours the same on the other end of the plug (still in the car) as I've never taken a look so wouldn't know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 Sorry, my photos may be misleading. On the thread linked above it recommends doing the car side. It's the plug on the car wiring I'm fiddling with which is why I don't want to keep trying trial and error as I may knacker it for OEM lights too. The socket on the light unit is fixed and more awkward to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 1 long-gone reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 That looks dead handy. Will watch at lunchtime if I get a chance. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 Thank you knightryder, perfect! Virtual internet beerage to you, and others who helped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
long-gone 152 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 For the record, it's simply switch the white and red pins in light unit. Just realized I'll have to swap the buggers back in a few weeks for MOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 Why would you need to swap them for an MOT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mike said: Why would you need to swap them for an MOT? To put the OEM lights back on. You can't repin the Toms so you have to do it on the car side of the connector. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 458 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 Just now, knightryder said: To put the OEM lights back on. You can't repin the Toms so you have to do it on the car side of the connector. I assumed he meant swapping the lights but my question was why swap the lights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted August 3, 2016 Just now, Mike said: I assumed he meant swapping the lights but my question was why swap the lights? These are the US red Toms, they have red indicators. It's an MOT fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
