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So will be tuning my car soon after fitting my UEL manifold and obviously more power & torque is the primary goal but is there anything else worth asking for that others have had tuned?

I've read tuning out the cold start is common, but is this safe for the engine? I was under the impression that its just to help the cat get up to temperature quicker but I could be wrong?

I also read somewhere that some people ask for the throttle changed to be more linear but again I could be wrong.

Any advice/recommendations would be magic! 

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Tuning out cold start is perfectly safe. You'll regret not having this tuning out, but normal driving rules apply anyway. Let your car warm up before driving with a heavy foot. 

Do ensure you go to a reputable tuner though. 

 

 

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Not sure there is something "to regret". But if one has aftermarket catback, most of those are annoyingly (also for neighbors) loud with cold start. If stock catback, imho it's not an issue. And a bit easier/quicker to heat up cats prior MOT. But not having it of course will bring no unsafety to engine.

Linear throttle map .. it's subjective thing. It may provide a bit finer throttle control on track .. but also with it engine might feel a bit weaker, after all, non linear was implemented especially to fool one's mind, that there is more powerful engine then it is, as most drive on public roads with partial/lightly pressed throttle, so if engine power changes a lot relative little initial throttle pedal movement, it seems more powerful subjectively. Some may like it, some not.

Then again, probably you'll be tuned via ecutek? Then probably you can have several tunes, with/without coldstart, with more linear or as stock throttle mapping, various fuel types and so on, and be able to switch between tunes (via eg. cruise control stalk).

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Definitely tune out the cold start high idle.  The UEL manifold makes the exhaust louder, even the stock one.

As for throttle mapping, Abbey Motorsport tuned mine for a very linear but fast response.  Once you get used to it, you'll be grateful for fine throttle control when stuck in traffic.

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Thanks for the advice, my exhaust set up is or will be HKS UEL with sport cat, HKS over pipe, stock front pipe and Invidia q300 from there back. Currently just got the q300 installed and even thought its regarded as quieter then stock on cold start its still loud, so will defiantly be asking for it to be tuned out just wanted to ensure I wasn't harming anything lol, as for mot should be okay as I will still have two cats and i'll warm the car up before I drop it off.

As for tuning, my mate is part of a local tuning company so will be taking it him for the tune, im not sure if they will use ecutek or not, just that its going on a rolling road. 

I'm not sure if its just my car or not but if im rolling in first, gear clutch up, no throttle and then i lightly press the throttle to increase speed the car will jolts forward as if I've jabbed the pedal with my foot, its not a massive jolt but enough for me it to feel it. kind feels like its giving me 15% power when i only requested 5% for example. This is why I was curious about a throttle mapping.

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On 6/1/2022 at 11:28 PM, Sking said:

Tuning out cold start is perfectly safe. You'll regret not having this tuning out, but normal driving rules apply anyway. Let your car warm up before driving with a heavy foot. 

Do ensure you go to a reputable tuner though. 

 

 

yeh not a problem, I have the forester oil to water cooler so it gets the engine oil up to temp quicker and I also have the just Gerald projects cluster gauges so i can see when both water and oil are up to temp before going WOT

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When I had my remap done by abbey motorsport using an ecutek on their hub dyno. 
Mark added the switchable maps.

1. Razor sharp throttle

2. Softer throttle for wet weather driving or if the sharp throttle is too much.

3. Low octane with the ignition timing pulled back (low power mode).

4. Flat foot shifting, rev match auto blip.

Depending on how good they are with ecutek you can add features like reduced power when oil temps go up too high on track. 

 

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On 6/7/2022 at 10:44 AM, matrixprotein said:

I'd personally take it to fensport or Abbey. With a company that has an excellent reputation and experience with ecutek. No disrespect to your friend or his company

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yeh my mates company no longer has access to a rolling road so said they couldn't help me, after calling a few local places (some of which had never heard of a GT86 which I found odd as I didn't think our cars were that obscure haha), so decided that a place that specialises in our cars would probably be the best bet, luckily abbey is only an hour and a half drive from me, just waiting to hear back as to when they can fit me in.

I have been looking into Ecutek, can some one who has had a Ecutek tune tell me if you have to leave the Bluetooth dongle in the obd2 port whilst you use the car? or is it only used during the tuning process and then is no longer required to be plugged in? I only ask as the Just Gerald Projects gauges I have in stalled require the obd2 port to work.

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No you don't have anything with ecutek. You just pay the license and get the car tuned. All by Abbey, you come in with your car and leave with your car with no 'physical' additions to the car

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No, the dongle isn't needed and I have my Scangauge gauges plugged into the OBD2 port.

You can ask for different programmes for the four modes, too.  I have these:

1. Full power
2. Full power plus auto-blip
3. Lower power for standard fuel
4. Shutdown (will not start)

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Since yours is Manifold and tune, its not complicated but you can get it tuned many ways. One way is like Martin has suggested. Another approach is:

1. 95 Octane / Standard fuel tune , Standard throttle 

2. 97 Octane tune , Standard Throttle

3. 99 Octane tune, Sensitive Throttle

4. 99 Octane tune with Racerom features (Auto Blip, Launch Control, Flat Foot Shift) and Sensitive throttle

 

Or you can choose permutations and combinations of by mixing and matching.

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thanks for the advice, I'll have to make my mind up what 4 I will find useful. I only fill up with 99 and i have no problem with heel toe provided im not wearing boots.

Could you explain these in regards to our car: Auto Blip, Launch Control, Flat Foot Shift?

I was under the impression that flat foot shifting wasn't all that useful outside of a turbo car to keep the turbo spooled up between shifts? but I could be wrong

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18 minutes ago, Lordyboi said:

thanks for the advice, I'll have to make my mind up what 4 I will find useful. I only fill up with 99 and i have no problem with heel toe provided im not wearing boots.

Could you explain these in regards to our car: Auto Blip, Launch Control, Flat Foot Shift?

I was under the impression that flat foot shifting wasn't all that useful outside of a turbo car to keep the turbo spooled up between shifts? but I could be wrong

You can read about the features here. The software allows these options, does Flat foot shift give you any real gain especially in an NA car is a good question and probably limited gains , if you do a lot of track time then the time to depress and release clutch is saved.. which will be milli seconds. Thats about it.

 

https://www.ecutek.com/what-are-racerom-special-features/

 

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15 minutes ago, BRZ-123 said:

You can read about the features here. The software allows these options, does Flat foot shift give you any real gain especially in an NA car is a good question and probably limited gains , if you do a lot of track time then the time to depress and release clutch is saved.. which will be milli seconds. Thats about it.

 

https://www.ecutek.com/what-are-racerom-special-features/

 

i'll have a read cheers

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