Lmc 27 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 Going to need a new clutch soonish so just doing my research. what clutch are those with fi cars running? Will more than likely go for TD stage 2 upgrade at some stage so will need a clutch to hold approx 330/350 bhp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 By chance isn't torque more important then power in relation to aftermarket clutch choice? Also not sure it's worth so much to higher power, as clutch is not the only thing that might be inadequate, eg. also gearbox (IIRC increased chance to grenade 4th or 5th gear), axle (in addition to stronger forged internals for engine and such. Engine rebuild may cut at rather high budget). Imho if you find basic forced induction packages still lacking, given high cost of supporting mods for even more power .. much better choice seems getting different car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Church said: By chance isn't torque more important then power in relation to aftermarket clutch choice? Also not sure it's worth so much to higher power, as clutch is not the only thing that might be inadequate, eg. also gearbox (IIRC increased chance to grenade 4th or 5th gear), axle (in addition to stronger forged internals for engine and such. Engine rebuild may cut at rather high budget). Imho if you find basic forced induction packages still lacking, given high cost of supporting mods for even more power .. much better choice seems getting different car. Your right torque is more important but I didn’t have estimated figures to hand. as far as the power is concerned it’s each to there own I’m afraid. Love the car but have always in all my previous cars craved more power. I was simply trying to point out my probable future plans to aid in advice required. I’ll worry about things breaking when & if they do & If I wanted a different car I’d of bought a different car. anyway back on topic any Fi cars with uprated clutch please feel free to chirp in with what your using and how you find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
will300 812 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 TD's Stage 2 includes a clutch - Details taken from the TD website: Stage 2 consists of the following upgrades in addition to the stage 1 package: Upgraded Exedy Clutch Kit Gearbox Oil Upgraded Omni Power FA20 Engine MAP Sensor 3 Port Electronic Boost Control Kit 320lph Tuning Developments In Tank Fuel Pump Kit 850cc Injector Dynamics Port Injector Set Installation For All Of The Above Dyno Setup & Mapping Including Switchable Boost Maps Via ECUTeK RaceROM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, will300 said: TD's Stage 2 includes a clutch - Details taken from the TD website: Stage 2 consists of the following upgrades in addition to the stage 1 package: Upgraded Exedy Clutch Kit Gearbox Oil Upgraded Omni Power FA20 Engine MAP Sensor 3 Port Electronic Boost Control Kit 320lph Tuning Developments In Tank Fuel Pump Kit 850cc Injector Dynamics Port Injector Set Installation For All Of The Above Dyno Setup & Mapping Including Switchable Boost Maps Via ECUTeK RaceROM Sorry should of pointed out my clutch is likely to go before i get the stage 2 done and from previous experience im not overly keen on exedy clutches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinA 695 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 I have the Exedy clutch in my my FI 86, feels very similar to OEM and stands up to sprinting and track work well. Had all sorts of clutches in previous monsters but they tend to not drive as well. 1 Lmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, KevinA said: I have the Exedy clutch in my my FI 86, feels very similar to OEM and stands up to sprinting and track work well. Had all sorts of clutches in previous monsters but they tend to not drive as well. Thanks that’s the info i was after. Do you launch the car quite hard in sprinting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinA 695 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 As an idea 500bhp 4WD cars with launch control are doing 0 to 64 ft in 1.9secs I'm at 2.1secs with RWD so fairly hard launch. 1 Lmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, KevinA said: As an idea 500bhp 4WD cars with launch control are doing 0 to 64 ft in 1.9secs I'm at 2.1secs with RWD so fairly hard launch. That’s good times and great info Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 Having to re visit this now as car is booked in for valve recall on 4th jan so need to get a clutch for them to fit before then. narrowed it down to 3 dependant on availability so just after some advice im looking at exedy stage 1 which due to previous experiences with exedy im not overly keen on. helix uprated clutch which according to fensports website might not be in stock so will need to check monday. or competition clutch stage 3 but have no experience with them, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matrixprotein 33 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 I'm using an xtreme stage 1 clutch from fensport.Very similar to oem but much better I feel. The clutch is very low which like. After depressing the clutch, hardly have to lift off because its moving. I live in a high traffic area as well and it's more than comfortable.Highly recommend. Might be worth checking the turbo kit you are going for and just making sure the xtreme 1 clutch torque limit is suitable for whatever kit you are going; presumably tdSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, matrixprotein said: I'm using an xtreme stage 1 clutch from fensport. Very similar to oem but much better I feel. The clutch is very low which like. After depressing the clutch, hardly have to lift off because its moving. I live in a high traffic area as well and it's more than comfortable. Highly recommend. Might be worth checking the turbo kit you are going for and just making sure the xtreme 1 clutch torque limit is suitable for whatever kit you are going; presumably td Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Thanks td turbo kit already fitted & running 289bhp which is making the stock clutch slip hence the need for an uprated one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matrixprotein 33 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 In that case, at that level I would highly recommend the xtreme stage 1. Wont regret it. I know many recommend the exedy but I haven't tried it myself, but having experienced this one, I wont bother trying others.Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk 1 Lmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burtie178 3 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 I’ve just had the TD stage 1 turbo fitted and it pulled the clutch out on the Dyno. Mike fitted the stage 1 Exedy and although I haven’t done many miles it has all the feel of an oem but with the reliability of being uprated 1 Lmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, Burtie178 said: I’ve just had the TD stage 1 turbo fitted and it pulled the clutch out on the Dyno. Mike fitted the stage 1 Exedy and although I haven’t done many miles it has all the feel of an oem but with the reliability of being uprated Glad your enjoying it. The problem i have with the exedy is although several people have said it’s great & works fine the specs only rate it up to 160ft lb of torque at wheels & 190 @ flywheel where as im a 234ft lb already and would probably look at Td stage 2 in the not to distant future. So in reality while it will work for a while longevity will be of concern & having burnt out 2 exedy clutches ( in a previous car) with hard launches on the drag strip when they should have allegedly been up to the job i struggle to trust them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, matrixprotein said: In that case, at that level I would highly recommend the xtreme stage 1. Wont regret it. I know many recommend the exedy but I haven't tried it myself, but having experienced this one, I wont bother trying others. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Thanks will take a look at this kit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 All sorted thanks just ordered the extreme stage 1 clutch through Tarmac Sportz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites