KobayashiMaru 28 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Was looking for a HKS Panel Filter for my brother for Christmas then saw this. Looks well made but is it worth getting? http://www.amber-performance.co.uk/product.php?xProd=25269&xSec=8425 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 They are meant to help smooth airflow but that is a lot of money for a pipe plus 30 quid air filter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 And it's made of metal. = heatsoak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeps 294 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Save a few quid and buy the Blitz/Cusco kit and the HKS filter separately. £90 saved. I've got the Cosworth/Perrin style one which removes the sound tube, wasn't expecting it to do anything else but the butt dyno feels happier I have it, or it's a very good placebo to justify spending money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KobayashiMaru 28 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Just now, Church said: And it's made of metal. = heatsoak? Yeah good point. I'll just stick with the filter for now. Did see somewhere else you can get a hose that's similar and still retains the noise generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KobayashiMaru 28 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Steeps said: Save a few quid and buy the Blitz/Cusco kit and the HKS filter separately. £90 saved. I've got the Cosworth/Perrin style one which removes the sound tube, wasn't expecting it to do anything else but the butt dyno feels happier I have it, or it's a very good placebo to justify spending money. Got a link? Just ordered a filter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeps 294 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, KobayashiMaru said: Got a link? Just ordered a filter. All of their hoses are on here: http://www.amber-performance.co.uk/section.php?xSec=8427&xPage=1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tegunulgener 84 Report post Posted December 20, 2016 Got the filter last 4 years. Very happy with it. Change when it goes dark. Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 20, 2016 Honestly, save yourself over £150 and just get a silicon replacement hose. As a few have mentioned, it helps smooth the airflow, which makes for a slightly less "spiky" power delivery, but I would almost guarantee you wouldn't notice the difference unless you were looking for it. Silicon one means you can choose the colour, which is a bonus considering it is, for the most part, a visual upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 Imho about the only thing silicon intake hoses are good for - it's cleaner way for soundtube deletion/underbonnet space cleanup. Then again not sure it's worth the money. Smoother airflow? Doubt it's worth more then 1-2 ponies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 12 hours ago, Church said: Imho about the only thing silicon intake hoses are good for - it's cleaner way for soundtube deletion/underbonnet space cleanup. Then again not sure it's worth the money. Smoother airflow? Doubt it's worth more then 1-2 ponies. Sounds like you're both agreeing and disagreeing with me at the same time. Something lost in translation maybe? Smoother airflow isn't a guess, it's a fact. Look at a dyno comparison of the two (or more easily, just ask a tuner) and you'll see the difference, but as you rightly said, it's such a small difference, it's almost certainly not worth the money. That being said, a silicon replacement can be picked up for around £50. Almost nothing worth that sort of money is gonna do much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 Apart from an air filter.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S18 RSG 429 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 33 minutes ago, maurice said: Apart from an air filter.. Air filter doesn't really "do" much, but there's no arguing with proven gains on a dyno, so for <£50 it's a no brainer purchase. I bet very few people would notice if their aftermarket panel filter was swapped with an OEM filter without them knowing. The car might feel/sound fractionally different, but very few people would instantly know their filter had been changed. So no, I stick by my point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 Doesn't do much and no-brainer purchase tend to be mutually exclusive but I know what you're getting at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 Changing filter apart from low price has another big plus: it's very easily completely reversible mod even by novices. I agree on +5whp being too low for anyone to really notice by butt dyno, but given prices of airfilters it still is objectively THE best intake-exhaust mod by price/performancy. Yes, other bolt-on parts, like catless header and so on, may net more gains .. at 10x the price. Actually imho aftermarket airfilter+OFT (or tactrix cable) with OTS tunes might be best choice for anyone, that wishes some gains with least efforts/spendings and car to still be easily reversible to stock status without requiring much efforts/skills/work/time. Gains are slight, but so are required investments (and from what i've seen, it's easy enough to resell used OFT gaining most of spendings back). And in countries with access to ethanol E85 gains are not just +10whp, but some +20whp. That, given costs, might be noticeable enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 The problem with OFT here is that once imported, it comes out as pretty much the same price as an experienced UK tuner custom Ecutek tuning your car on a dyno. i.e. it doesn't look great value. I do like how the stock map can be switched back without a trace of a remap though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, maurice said: I do like how the stock map can be switched back without a trace of a remap though. That seems very much the reasoning behind the ultra paranoid guys in the US. It's really a non issue with most of the dealers here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 How so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varelco 211 Report post Posted December 22, 2016 The other advantage of the Tactrix/ROMraider is that you don't have to spend a fortune to tweak parameters on your car. For example simply rescaling your MAF for a new intake and removing the sonic boom cold start up would be worth it for some (£65 for the cable, software is free). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gringosteve 213 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 The other advantage of the Tactrix/ROMraider is that you don't have to spend a fortune to tweak parameters on your car. For example simply rescaling your MAF for a new intake and removing the sonic boom cold start up would be worth it for some (£65 for the cable, software is free). Where can u get tactrix for £65??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 442 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Panel filter and a silicon intake hose much cheaper as a solution. Also gets rid of the nasty sound generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerastes 204 Report post Posted January 8, 2017 I really don't see the value in those hoses, they look cheap but yet cost £100+ Mishimoto one looks ok but still not worth the £££'s surely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted January 8, 2017 8 hours ago, Cerastes said: I really don't see the value in those hoses, they look cheap but yet cost £100+ Mishimoto one looks ok but still not worth the £££'s surely. eBay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varelco 211 Report post Posted January 9, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 1:04 AM, Cerastes said: I really don't see the value in those hoses, they look cheap but yet cost £100+ Mishimoto one looks ok but still not worth the £££'s surely. You're best off keeping an eye out on the for sale section on the forums, thats the best place to snap one up. In fact I have a red Zeta Performance silicone intake hose up for sale soon... On 07/01/2017 at 11:19 PM, Gringosteve said: Where can u get tactrix for £65??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Google led me to this: http://www.hobd2.com/wholesale/new-tactrix-openport-2-0-ecuflash.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhs3DBRDmu-rVkuif0N8BEiQAWuUJr0Ve-7yG9Py8zk8lFY36pRZJZDWXmXO3yGnL-4caU-gaAp9c8P8HAQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodename47 446 Report post Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Varelco said: Google led me to this: http://www.hobd2.com/wholesale/new-tactrix-openport-2-0-ecuflash.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhs3DBRDmu-rVkuif0N8BEiQAWuUJr0Ve-7yG9Py8zk8lFY36pRZJZDWXmXO3yGnL-4caU-gaAp9c8P8HAQ I doubt that's a genuine Tactrix OP2. There are plenty of Chinese copies around and there are risks involved. I've read before that you can only buy the real items from the Tactrix website, $170. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites